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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 8/9/22 at 8:12 pm to
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 8/9/22 at 8:12 pm to
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No mention of the Russian spy satellite launch? Or has that been covered?


I believe it was discussed but most of the discussion was lost in the anti-Ukrainian posters shitting their pants over CBS retracting their story and AI issuing an apology for misrepresentation of facts.

However, back to the war. It looks like the Ukrainians have decided that they have done to the Antonvsky bridge and have turned their attention to the only other road and rail connection between Kherson and the east bank of the Dnieper.

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It is reported that after the explosions in Nova Kakhovka, something began to burn in the direction of the dam.

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Just for reference purposes. In addition to providing road and rail connections across the Dnieper River. The Nova Kakhovka dam holds back the Kakhovka Reservoir which is the main source of water for all of Russian occupies southern Ukraine and Crimea.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45740 posts
Posted on 8/9/22 at 8:13 pm to
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No, I wasn’t a pilot in desert storm. I was Marine infantryman in the Iraq war and now I fly ISR as a contractor.




My apologizes for getting you confused with another poster.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45740 posts
Posted on 8/9/22 at 8:18 pm to
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This is interesting, this is supposedly nonoperational but I wonder if Ukraine got it working?

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The Grom (Thunder) is a new Ukrainian short-range ballistic missile, that is currently being developed.
Facts:
Number of missiles-2
Maximum road speed-70 km/h
Range-800 ~ 1 000 km


Just like the Neptune ASM it appears that Ukraine decided to try testing the Grimm2 missile on a live target.

ETA: If it's true that Ukraine has been able to get it's own ballistic missile systems operational then striking the Crimean Bridge has just become a legitmate possibility. It is currently just under 500 km from the frontlines in the Kherson Oblast to the Crimean bridge based on google maps and it is probably shorter as the bird or ballistic missile flies. I am not saying it will happen but it is food for thought.
This post was edited on 8/9/22 at 9:14 pm
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4691 posts
Posted on 8/9/22 at 8:44 pm to
ISW Update

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The Ukrainian General Staff made no mention of Izyum in its 1800 situational report on August 9, nor did other prominent Ukrainian sources despite Western sources’ claims of an ongoing Ukrainian counteroffensive in this area.


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The Russian Defense Ministry claimed that several aircraft munitions detonated in the storage areas of the Saky airbase due to poor fire protocol, rejecting reports that Ukrainian strikes or sabotage at the military facility caused the explosions.



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The Kremlin has little incentive to accuse Ukraine of conducting strikes that caused the damage since such strikes would demonstrate the ineffectiveness of Russian air defense systems, which the Ukrainian sinking of the Moskva had already revealed


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Russia launched an Iranian satellite into orbit on August 9 that could be used to provide military intelligence on Ukraine


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Key Takeaways

Russian forces conducted ground attacks to the southeast of Siversk and around Bakhmut.

Russian forces conducted ground attacks north of Donetsk City and southwest of Donetsk City near the Zaporizhia-Donetsk Oblast border.

Several large explosions hit Russian positions near Sevastopol and north of Crimea, but Russia did not blame Ukraine for them and Ukraine has not taken credit for them.

Russia launched a surveillance satellite for Iran.

Western media has reported that a Ukrainian counteroffensive is underway near Izyum, but the Ukrainian General Staff was notably completely silent about the area in its evening report.
Russian sources suggested that recently-formed volunteer battalions are responsible for much of the Izyum sector.

Ukrainian officials claimed that Russian forces continued to fire artillery systems from the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant.

Russian officials are continuing to take prominent roles in preparing for the sham referenda in Russian-occupied regions despite Kremlin claims that Russia is not conducting the referenda.
Posted by DabosDynasty
Member since Apr 2017
5180 posts
Posted on 8/9/22 at 8:55 pm to
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The Kremlin has little incentive to accuse Ukraine of conducting strikes that caused the damage since such strikes would demonstrate the ineffectiveness of Russian air defense systems, which the Ukrainian sinking of the Moskva had already revealed


Because rolling this out for the 72nd time is better:

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The Russian Defense Ministry claimed that several aircraft munitions detonated in the storage areas of the Saky airbase due to poor fire protocol, rejecting reports that Ukrainian strikes or sabotage at the military facility caused the explosions.


Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45740 posts
Posted on 8/9/22 at 9:17 pm to
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The Kremlin has little incentive to accuse Ukraine of conducting strikes that caused the damage since such strikes would demonstrate the ineffectiveness of Russian air defense systems, which the Ukrainian sinking of the Moskva had already revealed


Because rolling this out for the 72nd time is better:

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The Russian Defense Ministry claimed that several aircraft munitions detonated in the storage areas of the Saky airbase due to poor fire protocol, rejecting reports that Ukrainian strikes or sabotage at the military facility caused the explosions.



Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
30696 posts
Posted on 8/9/22 at 11:04 pm to
This is some seriously out-of-control smoking:





Video footage of the airbase from the beach in Crimea:

BBC


More footage:

Twitter

Twitter

Twitter #3

Twitter #4


Twitter #5 this shows 2 explosions
This post was edited on 8/9/22 at 11:15 pm
Posted by AGGIES
Member since Jul 2021
12634 posts
Posted on 8/9/22 at 11:29 pm to
Thanks. Interesting to see explosions shaking the camera in video taken by Russians vacationing at the beach.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
16147 posts
Posted on 8/9/22 at 11:30 pm to
From the frontline north of Mariupol, it is under 300 km
Posted by Sooner5030
Desert Southwest
Member since Sep 2014
1740 posts
Posted on 8/9/22 at 11:34 pm to
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I fly ISR as a contractor.


-8s?
Posted by LSUPilot07
Member since Feb 2022
8668 posts
Posted on 8/9/22 at 11:57 pm to
It’s impossible to tell for sure how many fighter aircraft either side has in country right now but there’s no doubt that the Russians have more but haven’t been able to gain air dominance with their superior numbers over a small but brave group of Ukrainian pilots. If I had to put a number on it I’d say Ukraine has between 60-75 fighters able to fly, mostly of the MIG-29 variety with the rest being SU-27’s and maybe a handful of older SU-24’d thrown in. They probably have around 20 SU-25 ground attack aircraft also so all in they probably have 100 aircraft. Russia most likely has around 300-400 aircraft of all varieties in the general vicinity of around 50% of that number being ground attack aircraft like the SU-24 and SU-25. The SU-25’s have been particularly vulnerable to ground fire from MANPADS. Russia could put more aircraft to the fight but their terrible logistics won’t allow it right now as poor as they are plus the sheer amount of fuel to keep a large fleet in the air is massive ad they don’t have the in air refueling capabilities that we do so they would need to be based relatively close to be effective. I would think we will continue seeing the majority of Russia’s air power coming from helicopters and older ground attack panes with a few fighters thrown in. Russia’s diminished anti-air defenses and Ukraine’s ability to hit further and further behind the lines will only push the Russian Air Force back and make things that much harder to stay combat effective. The quickest way to neutralize air power is to attack it’s munitions and fuel dumps and it’s very clear Ukraine understands this .
This post was edited on 8/10/22 at 9:06 am
Posted by Allyn McKeen
Key West, FL
Member since Jun 2012
4906 posts
Posted on 8/10/22 at 5:29 am to
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Probably not better than 50-60% is reaching the front now


CNN has a position for you. No direct knowledge of the situation. No sources. Guess at a number. Add the word “probably“ to make it sound better. Draw some conclusions based on the fact you just created.
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
15968 posts
Posted on 8/10/22 at 6:22 am to
Is there a way to make this thread more truthful? If you only read this thread you would assume Ukraine is destroying Russia but if you do other research you find out it's the complete opposite. Ukraine has lost nearly half it's troops and the majority of their leadership in the military. Why do we keep sending money to a losing cause?
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
28801 posts
Posted on 8/10/22 at 6:35 am to
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Is there a way to make this thread more truthful? If you only read this thread you would assume Ukraine is destroying Russia but if you do other research you find out it's the complete opposite.

if you are noticing the absence of credible pro-Russia war reports, that is a valid observation. The pro-Russia posters do not attempt to bring actual war information to the thread. I’m sure that one difficulty is that Russian propaganda is not based on truthful reporting of information.
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5745 posts
Posted on 8/10/22 at 7:02 am to
British Defence Intelligence
UPDATE ON UKRAINE 10 August 2022
INTELLIGENCE UPDATE

Russian commanders highly likely continue to be faced with the competing operational priorities of
reinforcing the Donbas offensive, and strengthening defences against anticipated Ukrainian counter attacks in the south.

To support the Ukraine operation, Russia has almost certainly established a major new ground forces formation, 3rd Army Corps (3 AC), based out of Mulino, in Nizhny Novgorod Oblast east of Moscow Russia likely plans to resource a large proportion of 3 AC from newly formed volunteer' battalions, which are being raised across the country, and which group together recruits from the same areas.

Russian regional politicians have confirmed that potential 3 AC recruits are being offered lucrative cash bonuses once they deploy to Ukraine. Recruitment is open to men up to 50 years old and with only middle-school education. A Russian army corps typically consists of 15-20,000 troops, but it will probably be difficult for Russia to bring 3 AC up to this strength, given very limited levels of popular enthusiasm for volunteering for combat in Ukraine. 3 AC's effect is unlikely to be decisive to the campaign.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42769 posts
Posted on 8/10/22 at 7:10 am to
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Is there a way to make this thread more truthful? If you only read this thread you would assume Ukraine is destroying Russia but if you do other research you find out it's the complete opposite. Ukraine has lost nearly half it's troops and the majority of their leadership in the military. Why do we keep sending money to a losing cause?

I agree. Now you need to start by providing a link to your source for the information you quoted.
Posted by Palantir
I've been a Columbia House
Member since Oct 2020
691 posts
Posted on 8/10/22 at 7:12 am to
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Is there a way to make this thread more truthful? If you only read this thread you would assume Ukraine is destroying Russia but if you do other research you find out it's the complete opposite. Ukraine has lost nearly half it's troops and the majority of their leadership in the military. Why do we keep sending money to a losing cause?
You are more than welcome to provide such information.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
TeamBunt General Manager
Member since Apr 2013
62514 posts
Posted on 8/10/22 at 7:15 am to
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you are noticing the absence of credible pro-Russia war reports, that is a valid observation. The pro-Russia posters do not attempt to bring actual war information to the thread. I’m sure that one difficulty is that Russian propaganda is not based on truthful reporting of information.


First of all I’m not “pro-Russia.” Have never posted anything pro Russia and never will.

Second, perhaps the reason you don’t see “pro-russian” war news is because I won’t post blatant propaganda like all of the “Pro-Ukrainian” posters do.

Cypher posts blatant propaganda from Ukrainian Pravda everyday.

WeeWee posts rumors he gets from his freaking college roommate and some other nerd relays info from his buddy that’s like a CFO for some random Russian corporation.

None that info is verifiable or backed up by any credible source. Yet everyone here takes it as gospel for some reason. How come neither of these posters never hear anything from their friends about Ukrainian setbacks or losses?
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5745 posts
Posted on 8/10/22 at 7:19 am to
Explosions in Crimea: Ukrainian Air Forces told what military equipment occupiers kept in Saky
Wednesday, 10 August 2022, 09:55

The Air Forces of Ukraine assume that as a result of explosions on 9 August, at the airfield in the Russia-occupied Crimea, a warehouse of aviation weapons and about a dozen aircraft were destroyed.

Source: Yuriy Ihnat, Air Force Command spokesman on the air of the national telethon on 10 August

Details: Ihnat said that "Saki" is a military airfield in the Ukrainian Crimea, where the occupiers stationed Su-30SM, Su-24, IL-76 and other aircraft.

They took off from the airfield every day. 24/7 occupier’s aviation patrols the airspace near Ukraine. The whole area of the Black Sea is constantly patrolled by Russians, without reaching the Zmiinyi (Snake) Island, changing only planes and crews, said the spokesman of the Air Force of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

In general, there are 5 airfields in Crimea that the Russian Federation can use to take off planes and launch missile strikes around Ukraine, and this poses a serious threat, in addition to dozens of airfields in Belarus and Russia itself, Ihnat added.

Quote from Ihnat: "According to the explosion, which we observed in the video footage, it is clear that the aircraft weapons depot was hit. Because the detonation was serious. And if additionally a dozen planes are destroyed there, it will be a real small victory."

Ukrainska Pravda
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5745 posts
Posted on 8/10/22 at 7:24 am to
Destruction of the Crimean Bridge is a necessary measure for the liberation of Crimea – Marchenko
Wednesday, 10 August 2022, 12:36

Ukraine will liberate Crimea by military means and the destruction of the Crimean Bridge is a necessary measure for this.

Source: Major General of the Armed Forces of Ukraine Dmytro Marchenko in an interview with RBC Ukraine

Marchenko on whether Ukraine can liberate Crimea by military means: "Yes. We will liberate it by military means. No one has rejected this. Crimea is Ukraine, it is our land, and there are our people there who are still forced to sit under occupation. No one gave Russia the right to come, take a piece of land and say that ‘this is mine’."

Details: He clarified that for the liberation of Crimea, it is necessary to destroy the Crimean Bridge.

Quote from Marchenko: "Yes, this is a necessary measure to deprive them of the opportunity to provide reserves and strengthen their troops from the territory of Russia."

Ukrainska Pravda
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