re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

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traffic jam at the Kerch strait bridge. Russians trying to exit Crimea.

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Thats terrible those Russians got their vacation cut short, thats a real hardship.

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Russian advances throughout.

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If I've learned anything in this thread it's that you are terrible at reading maps

Good source , but not a map of all the fronts in Ukraine.
I see some minor Russian gains on the map and some minor Ukranian gains.

I’m not George Patton, but that map doesn’t indicate a Ukranian retreat in that sector of the war. There are Russian advanced as well as Ukranian advances.

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If I've learned anything in this thread it's that you are terrible at reading maps


No, it's you being terrible at facing reality.

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Nope. You once said ITT that a map with a smaller scale was zoomed out more than a map with a larger scale

Probably propaganda but I saw where the 3rd/1st Cavalry has derailed in Poland. Thats one heavy brigade. Seems like the lighter units are being replaced by heavier stuff. 3 Corps getting the band back together maybe.

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Nope. You once said ITT that a map with a smaller scale was zoomed out more than a map with a larger scale

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Poor guy can't read a map. ISW had to zoom way out of their frontline maps from May and June because Russia captured all of the territory.

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I seriously wonder how long this board will live in denial.

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Denial??? How about it’s obvious what the map indicates.
It’s a sector in the war with wins and losses for both sides.

What it isn’t is a map of the entire war.

What I won’t deny is that you are obviously trolling, you know what the map means but you love to stir things up.

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Is there a way to make this thread more truthful? If you only read this thread you would assume Ukraine is destroying Russia but if you do other research you find out it's the complete opposite. Ukraine has lost nearly half it's troops and the majority of their leadership in the military. Why do we keep sending money to a losing cause?

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The Fog of War

The core issue here is that no media on either side is covering the war in detail. Any information that does come out via the normal media sources is questionable at best due to the limited amount of resources invested in on-the-ground reporting from the war.

Thats why most of the people who are following the war are relying on nontraditional sources like Twitter, Telegram, and TikTok. I don't take any of them at face value, as everyone has an agenda these days; however, by aggregating traditional news sources, think tank sources, and nontraditional sources, one can begin to put together an understanding of what's happening on the ground.

It is clear the intensity and pace of the Russian offensive has slowed. Russia is making small incremental gains in the Donbas region, but they have not made any breakthroughs.

It is very clear that the Ukrainians are leveraging Western weapon systems to interdict Russian supply lines and attack Russian command and control facilities.

In the first phase of the war, Russia tried to do too much too fast and failed miserably in the Northern parts of Ukraine, to the point they had to abandon that effort and focus their resources on the area where they felt like they could have the most success which took us into the 2nd phase of the war which in my opinion has recently ended and we're now moving into the 3rd phase.

In the 2nd Phase of the war, Russia succeeded in taking a portion of the Donbas region but not all of it. At the same time, Ukraine pushed Russia away from Kharkiv and launched an offensive in southern Ukraine to retake Kherson. How many casualties were inflicted by either side during phase 2...we don't know, as neither side is reporting casualties. We do know that the Ukrainians have fought a fierce defensive battle and are trying to bleed Russia as much as they can; they have had some success, as numerous Russian sources have discussed whole units being wiped out. Again nothing concrete, just anecdotal evidence. Ukraine has suffered massive casualties as well, again they aren't reporting numbers so we are left to speculate and aggregate bits of information into a more cohesive picture.

Russia hasn't achieved any of its stated goals, and Ukraine hasn't pushed Russia out...at best, the war is currently a stalemate. Think about it this way. If the war were to end today with the current front lines, Has it been worth the effort and expense for Russia? I don't think so. Ukraine would have lost another large chunk of its country, all but 2 of its ports and suffered massive damage to the rest of the country, certainly not a win for Ukraine. Thats why I call it a stalemate.

Stiddy, you promised us Kiev's fall. When will it happen?

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Thats why I call it a stalemate.

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A very fair appraisal sir.

I do think things are at a tipping point. .
Ukraine isn’t going anywhere so Russia has to make a move.
Russia has to go all in or fold their hand and cut a deal. I can’t see them just bleeding out like they are now as Ukraine strategically goes after their logistics.

I could be all wrong and things will stay like this until the Winter and things really bog down. Maybe the Winters will allow Russia to reorganize forczz as bug spring offensive.