re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Oil storage facility on fire in Russian Yeysk

This morning, a fire broke out in the territory of an oil storage facility in the Russian city of Yeysk, Krasnodar region.

Eyewitnesses published the video capturing the incident on social media.

Petro Andriushchenko, Adviser to the Mayor of Mariupol, shared the news on Telegram.

The Russian city located on the shore of the Sea of Azov is positioned almost opposite temporarily occupied Mariupol in the Donetsk region – 30 km away across the sea.

He reminded that through this city, the Russians are planning to bring in the ammunition to the Mariupol port.

Petro Andriushchenko noted in addition to the port, Russian Yeysk also hosts a cargo terminal.

“Therefore, such a sudden fire may not be sudden after all,” the Adviser to the Mayor of Mariupol added.

Ukrainian Military Portal

quote:

---

First of all I’m not “pro-Russia.” Have never posted anything pro Russia and never will. Second, perhaps the reason you don’t see “pro-russian” war news is because I won’t post blatant propaganda like all of the “Pro-Ukrainian” posters do.

---

Are you an alter of SOSFAN? That’s who i was relying to. Also note that I didn’t call out anyone in particular. What I am noting is pretty much objectively correct.

The quality of an open thread like this depends upon the quality of the posting by the people who post. If you contribute information or discussion germane to the topic, the utility of a public thread goes up considerably. If folks post crap to try to derail any discussion of the facts (or rumors) being discussed, then the utility is diminished.

But of course we all know that.

So we can all be part of the problem or contribute to the quality of the discourse. And you are invited to contribute whatever reporting you are seeing that leads you to believe that the other reporting is incomplete.

quote:

---

Is there a way to make this thread more truthful?

---

You could start by sharing any somewhat credible link that includes any sort of visual evidence like a lot of posters instead of a bunch of whining and inflated self importance tied to your service that you think qualifies you to have an opinion/conversation and disqualifies those without.

quote:

---

From the frontline north of Mariupol, it is under 300 km

---

quote:

---

In 2019, it was expected that the Ukrainian military would reach an initial operational capability with the Grim-2/Hrim-2 weapon by 2022. Last year, Ukrainian officials announced that those plans had been scaled back to the acquisition of a single experimental battery with two TELs and two command-and-control nodes.

In addition, the Yuzhnoye Design Office has said in the past that it has also been developing a ground-launched cruise missile called Korshun, which is broadly akin to the Soviet-era Kh-55-series and that could be launched by a variant of the same TEL used to fire Grim-2/Hrim-2. The available details about any progress in the development of this weapon, which was reportedly also being eyed for air-launched and naval applications, are even more limited. Another 2015-copyrighted page from Ukroboronexport's website says this cruise missile was expected to have a maximum range of 280 kilometers (174 miles), have a satellite-assisted inertial navigation system guidance package, and be able to be fitted with multiple warhead types, including ones loaded with multiple submunitions.

---

LINK

Well in that case it may just be a matter of time before we see the Ukrainians attempt to attack the Crimean bridge if the rumors that Ukraine does have a stash of domestically built ballistic missiles, and this attack was carried out by a Ukrainian made ballistic missile then I bet there are some sphincters puckering in Russia right about meow especially since the USDOD said last night that Crimea is fair game and if Ukraine is only barred from attacking Russian soil with weapons that the west has supplied them with. Especially since the Hrim2 or Thunder2 is the missile whose technology somehow ended up in North Korean hands (the was before Zelinski's time in office so you Zelinski haters can STFU before you start) and it is capable of carrying nuclear weapons or dirty bombs. I don't think that Ukraine would be stupid enough to attack Russia with a nuclear or dirty bomb, but if cause a meltdown at the Zaporizhia nuclear power plant (which I don't think they would be stupid enough to do either since it poison the water supply to Crimea and the prevailing winds are blowing toward Russia) Ukraine does have a way of retaliating that Russia would have to take seriously. Again this all speculation but it's better than the daily caused by OML and the other tards .

quote:

---

You are more than welcome to provide such information.

---

He would just get downvoted if he did.

This place only cares about more dead Russians

The vast majority turn out to very accurate. Now, if someone would pull random obvious propaganda pieces off of You Tube and they are numerous, your claims would be valid.

We get that there is a shiitton propaganda out there which is wayyyy over the top. The truth actually is that it is Russian state propaganda meant for inside Russia which is never credible. The official news from Ukraine's government is actually quite accurate but with the caveat that it doesn't include info on Ukrainian casualties in men and equipment. Otherwise, it is quite accurate.

quote:

---

WeeWee posts rumors he gets from his freaking college roommate and some other nerd relays info from his buddy that’s like a CFO for some random Russian corporation.

---

1. It's my medical school roommate not college roommate and his brothers and some other ppl that I know. Get it right.

2. I have disclosed that my Ukrainian source(s) are biased and one of their jobs in Ukrainian intel is to counter Russian misinformation. Do you want me to start putting an * and stating that every time I post something?

3. My sauce(s) in Russia (yes I know I should be saying source(s) but I like sauce(s) better) are average people in Russia which is exactly who we are wanting to hear from if you want to know how the average Russian feels about the war.

quote:

---

How come neither of these posters never hear anything from their friends about Ukrainian setbacks or losses?

---

I have heard from my friend's brother in Ukrainian intel about Ukrainian losses and I have posted about them. At the height of the Sievierodonetsk campaign Ukraine was averaging around 1000-1200 causalities per day on most days and there were a few days where it was close to 2,000. I'm pretty sure that I posted how my sauce(s) told me that Ukraine hod to abandon Lysychans'k because they were not able to keep their artillery which was mostly USSR made artillery supplied with enough shells and more importantly they could not protect their artillery from the Russian air force so they withdrew to positions where they could protect their artillery from the Russian Air Force given their limited number of SAMs.

Right now Ukraine is averaging less than 100 casualties per day on the eastern axis since they are mostly fighting from prepared defensive positions. They are averaging 300 casualties (K/W/C) per day on the Kherson axis as they slowly advance on Kherson (1-2 km per day). I have not posted anything about losses lately because frankly I figured that nobody wanted to hear about that low of casualty figures.

It is your contrarian arse that keeps saying that Ukraine is suffering unsustainable losses without providing any source. Ukraine is not suffering unsustainable losses. It is suffering 100s of casualties per day but it has hundreds of thousands of troops in reserve to replace the losses with. It is Russia that is suffering unsustainable losses since their recruiting has been so abysmal. However, your contrarian arse who makes assertions and offers no source at all. It is also your contrarian arse who does not believe anything because according to you everything that is posted is either Russian or Ukrainian propaganda and no source is credible.

160 all in counting trainers and transport aircraft seems about right. I knew from looking at the pictures if the blast damage that very few aircraft were destroyed yesterday. If you look closely you can tell the aircraft hit was in its own parking bay which is surrounded by a small incline that separates each bay for each aircraft. That would have mitigated some of the other planes close by from taking as much damage as they would if they were just lined up side by side on the flight line like others were at other parts of that airfield. I would think 1-3 planes received damage but hitting their munitions building where they keep their missiles was much more harmful than losing a few old SU-24 airframes. If the fire also lit the fuel dumps then even better. Missiles are not easily replaceable for our own Air Force much less Russia so that was a big strike. Ukraine will eventually get a western aircraft but it’s not going to be the F-18 or F-15. Our f-15’s are like gold to us they aren’t going anywhere and the f-18 is expensive to maintain. Ukraine needs an aircraft capable of accomplishing many missions while being relatively easy to maintain and get replacement parts for. It also needs to as light as possible and fuel efficient. This is why I’m convinced the F-16 will be the aircraft chosen since it’s flown by all Ukraine’s neighbors so they have a logistical supply near them. The F-16 also has just one engine versus 2 on the f-18 so maintaining it is easier but you don’t lose performance since the Falcon’s engine is very powerful. The only other aircraft I would keep my eye on is the Swedish Gripen as it has the same one engine design that is light and efficient but there’s not nearly as many Gripen’s as there are F-16’s so I would put it at 95% certainty that we end up sending a couple squadrons of our older 30 block Falcons to Ukraine where they can still be put to good use. This will take time though. Ukraine still will need to hold the line with it’s Soviet era fleet at the very least until the start of the new year until we can get their pilots trained on the aircraft.

FTR, the United Cajun Navy has been doing humanitarian work in Ukraine, its spokesman was Trump Campaign manager for Louisiana in 2016/2020. They have confirmed that the atrocities occurred.

quote:

---

Most of WeeWee's "rumors" are solid but some may well be more like HEAD FAKES, and not the fault of him or his friend intentionally feeding misinformation.

---

I figured that out awhile back.

Good propaganda is 90% factual and 10% BS designed to sway opinion in a certain direction. You have to read other sources to determine fact from fiction.

And again I have no issue with WW. He is open about where his information is coming from as are a lot of the other good posters here. Even a few of thdd Ed Russian supporters brought bingo with a link.

Now too many come here and drop a bomb without any sourcing. That’s not good.