re: Jonah Hill says he could beat you up

I think a lot of guys get into training because they have always walked around weak and scared.

After getting lots fights under their belts they have confidence and ability which is great.

But it’s pretty stupid to think a guy that’s never trained in martial arts can’t throw a punch that will knock ya the eff out.

Obviously when you combine a decade of training with strong natural abilities, 99.9% of guys will have a real problem on their hands.

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He is getting the Hollywood treatment during his “training”

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Flip side to that is he can pay the highest level guys for private lessons.


He's not getting the Derek Moneyburg treatment I don't think.

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Once you reach Purple belt you should at least have one take down (a throw, single leg, double leg, etc..) that no one can defend.

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Yeah I couldn't detect your sarcasm in your post but agree. I spoke of jits evolving and when I got promoted to Purple what seems like a bazillion years ago, takedowns weren't really a thing. We did do throws but the only reason we did that is because we had a Judo guy that trained with us. What was nuts was hitting a throw on a dude in a tournament. Nobody expected that at all. We didn't start incorporating takedowns until the wrestlers started training withs us.

I say all of as someone who trains BJJ in a gi. If you are training no-gi, takedowns should probably start from Week 1, But gi vs no-gi is a much bigger debate than who Jonah Hill thinks he could beat up.

Would snicker be more appropriate? If you thought giggle is gay, I'm already rolling around on the ground with a bunch of sweaty dudes. Probably the reason I put off training for so long while my kid trained, because it does look pretty gay from an outsiders perspective, till someone tries to choke you and you have no idea how to get out of it. That's when the lightbulb moment was for me, "maybe I really don't know what I'm doing after all those fights in middle school or at high school parties." It started off trying to learn some defensive techniques, now I do it for the mental release more than anything as it's like playing chess in the upper belts.

I used to have a great drop tai otoshi

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That is changing. Back in the day, we all started on our knees doing techniques, drills, and rolling but thanks to the influx of wrestlers into BJJ, we always start on our feet now. There are still the purist BJJ guys that refuse to accept that takedowns and even throws from Judo are an evolution of jits but if you want to be well rounded at most schools and not get ridiculed or promoted, you are going to get with the concept of takedowns/defense.

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New becomes old and the old becomes new again.

Before the era you're talking about was the era when a BIG part of classic BJJ was just repurposed high stance wrestling - force your way into a clinch and go for outside trips, inside trips, and/or bulldoze the guy with a blast double or snatch single.

That was before the renaming of the IBJJF and the nailing down of a roughly standardized competition ruleset that undervalued the takedown and only scored reversals from a guard position instead of any bottom position.

It’s alright pride

You were too good at tennis to be in the special forces

I was too good at math

Well yeah but his standup needs a lot of work. I don’t think he’d be successful in mma

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Well yeah but his standup needs a lot of work. I don’t think he’d be successful in mma

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Like I said, successful competing against the OT Lounge roster but yeah he wouldn't make it with Jiu-Jitsu alone as we have seen lately in the UFC.

Damn. 7 or 8 years training “consistently” and still white belt?? Take up fishing homie.