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re: It’s amazing how much more receptive people are when you come in respectful/considerate
Posted on 1/14/25 at 3:59 pm to LegendInMyMind
Posted on 1/14/25 at 3:59 pm to LegendInMyMind
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No, it should be taught and upheld by parents from the time kids are able to understand.
I agree that should be taught in the home but there are kids that don't have a strong family life at home but find sanctuary in schools that possibly would be receptive.
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Posted on 1/14/25 at 4:00 pm to LegendInMyMind
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No, it should be taught and upheld by parents from the time kids are able to understand.
Ideally yes, but clearly that’s not working.
Better to have schools teach/enforce the basics as opposed to having a generation of young adults running around acting like sociopaths. It’s wouldn’t be hard if you start young…most small kids are almost always looking for adults to model how to be in the world.
Posted on 1/14/25 at 4:07 pm to jizzle6609
The problem in todays world is when you are nice and respectful after a while people will start to take advantage of that and then when you have to get mean and put them in there place they take it personal and get butthurt, people are so soft now its ridiculous
Posted on 1/14/25 at 4:09 pm to Basinhunterfisher
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The problem in todays world is when you are nice and respectful after a while people will start to take advantage of that and then when you have to get mean and put them in there place they take it personal and get butthurt
You can set healthy boundaries with people without being an a-hole.
The trick is to do it early. Don’t wait until you’re pissed and tired and blow up on them.
Posted on 1/14/25 at 4:10 pm to athenslife101
Be nice until it’s time to not be nice.
-Dalton
-Dalton
Posted on 1/14/25 at 4:17 pm to Underteaux
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It’s amazing how much life better is when you don’t act like an a-hole.
It's amazing you have to actually say this. I thought this was common knowledge. What the hell do I know?
Posted on 1/14/25 at 4:56 pm to GumboPot
It's gone beyond people just not being nice. People are now confrontational and violent. So much so that I've noticed posters in three different places (doctor, post office, drug store) that basically say "please treat our employees with respect."
Posted on 1/14/25 at 4:58 pm to athenslife101
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its not hard and usually benefits everyone involved. And if you don’t, you’re probably on some level being ignored and/or deprioritized.
People struggle with this most simple of soft skills. It’s astounding
This has always sort of been my stance on people bitching about Walmart. Sure, Walmart has assholes working there sometimes. But I’m not sure I’ve ever had a really negative or bad experience dealing with a worker there. But that’s because I’m always nice and respectful when I ask them something.
It feels like a lot of people that bitch about WM are also the same kind of people that truly believe they are better than and above WM and the people in it and who work there. So I suspect it’s their attitude that led to the bad experience most of the time.
This post was edited on 1/15/25 at 8:14 am
Posted on 1/14/25 at 6:53 pm to athenslife101
"you catch more flies with honey than vinegar"
Posted on 1/14/25 at 7:13 pm to deeprig9
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I have noticed people from the north east are really shitty at this.
I think they get a bad rap. They are definitely not as engaging. But I think because they come from more crowded areas, they develop the habit of keeping to themselves. We view this as rudeness. But when I’ve been in NYC, for example, and asked someone for information or directions, they have been very nice.
Posted on 1/14/25 at 7:19 pm to athenslife101
There have been very few times in my life in which being congenial hasn't solved my problems or prevented them from happening. The biggest gift my family has ever given me was a de-facto kind and respectful demeanor.
Posted on 1/14/25 at 7:22 pm to Basinhunterfisher
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The problem in todays world is when you are nice and respectful after a while people will start to take advantage of that and then when you have to get mean and put them in there place they take it personal and get butthurt, people are so soft now its ridiculous
This is a problem I have. I’m always respectful and probably overly nice. That’s often perceived as weakness. When I have to draw the line, people are often surprised and then it’s made to be too big of a deal. Sometimes, I think just being a jackass is the way to go but that’ll never be my personality.
Posted on 1/14/25 at 7:26 pm to Earnest_P
If you want to get nerdy about it, Game Theory takes strategic interactions and applies mathematical models to them. The interactions themselves may be extremely complex. "Games" are just the simple/easy way of conceptualizing an interaction.
Research has shown, and been proven via mathematics, that cooperation yields better outcomes overall in the long run/aggregate. Being self-serving may result in a big win here and there and being cooperative may result in getting screwed over from time to time, but cooperation yields enough big(ger) payoffs to offset and surpass the screwings. The wins from being self-serving aren't large enough to offset the losses incurred when the other party(ies) defect in reaction to your defection.
The only thing that might prevent you from seeing this outcome is if you don't live long enough for the law of large numbers to push the average of the outcomes to the expected value. (You could get all your screwings up front and then die before the big payoffs kick in...in theory, should you live long enough for N to be sufficient, cooperation will prove to yield better results.)
Research has shown, and been proven via mathematics, that cooperation yields better outcomes overall in the long run/aggregate. Being self-serving may result in a big win here and there and being cooperative may result in getting screwed over from time to time, but cooperation yields enough big(ger) payoffs to offset and surpass the screwings. The wins from being self-serving aren't large enough to offset the losses incurred when the other party(ies) defect in reaction to your defection.
The only thing that might prevent you from seeing this outcome is if you don't live long enough for the law of large numbers to push the average of the outcomes to the expected value. (You could get all your screwings up front and then die before the big payoffs kick in...in theory, should you live long enough for N to be sufficient, cooperation will prove to yield better results.)
Posted on 1/14/25 at 7:28 pm to athenslife101
Catch more flies with honey than you do with vinegar.
Posted on 1/14/25 at 8:11 pm to athenslife101
Two thoughts. First this was taught in church and Sunday school every Sunday my whole entire life. I’m not saying everyone should have been raised in church because some of the biggest assholes came from there, but I’m just saying teaching morality and spirituality is important raising children.
Unless you have a kid who’s a sociopath and that shite doesn’t work. Nothing does. But it works on the ones who aren’t usually.
Unless you have a kid who’s a sociopath and that shite doesn’t work. Nothing does. But it works on the ones who aren’t usually.
Posted on 1/14/25 at 8:17 pm to athenslife101
Yep. I am an inside salesman mostly.
Idiots who come in acting like a fool usually get that 'special' price and I usually don't put much effort into them.
Idiots who come in acting like a fool usually get that 'special' price and I usually don't put much effort into them.
Posted on 1/14/25 at 9:40 pm to bad93ex
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Should be taught in High School and again as a 101 class for freshmen. Please and thank you really do work wonders.
at home
Posted on 1/15/25 at 4:06 am to LegendInMyMind
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I didn't have a choice growing up. It was, "Yes/no sir/ma'am" and shut up and listen when grown folks are talking.
Some parents would go out of their way to make a big deal about this, forcefully correcting their kids in front of everybody. But most of the kids just became Eddie Haskell types …superficially respectful but still did all the same bad stuff as the other kids. And they still did whatever they felt like when parents weren’t around. Gotta do more than just publicly correcting the kids to show off that you are a good parent
Posted on 1/15/25 at 5:38 am to Longhorn Actual
Great post.
Posted on 1/15/25 at 5:45 am to athenslife101
You catch more bees with honey than you do vinegar
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