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re: I’m staunchly “agnostic”... my SO is not
Posted on 4/12/20 at 12:36 pm to WestCoastAg
Posted on 4/12/20 at 12:36 pm to WestCoastAg
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neither of you clearly respect the others opinion in all of this. if yall actually want your marriage to work, both of you need to change that ASAP
This. It’s clear from OP’s post that even though he says he respects that she believes in god and religion that he actually really doesn’t. I know several couples who are different religions and they make it work because there’s a respect there and compromise. Even if you don’t believe in god, you can suck it up for your wife and watch fricking Joel Osteen one time or attend a service once or twice a year, out of respect for you wife. And out of respect for you, she won’t ask you or bother you about it any other time and doesn’t delve into deep discussions about it or get mad when you vent your frustrations with religion. You can suck it up and attend one or two services. Walking in that mother fricker won’t set you on fire
I think OP is obviously dying to vent his frustrations about religion and I think he’s only a few years away from not being able to keep this to himself and is going to be unable to stop himself from making this a big deal.
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Posted on 4/12/20 at 12:36 pm to yankeeundercover
Listen to your wife.
Posted on 4/12/20 at 12:38 pm to yankeeundercover
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staunchly “agnostic”
Is this a joke?
How can one be firmly uncertain?
Isn't the entire concept of uncertainty inherently filled with doubt?
Before you ask, I did not read through this entire thread before making this post.
Posted on 4/12/20 at 12:38 pm to yankeeundercover
quote:And you, no doubt, must be a Vulcan.
I believe in logic/science/etc.
Posted on 4/12/20 at 12:40 pm to The Boat
Agnostic means you believe in god, you just do not subscribe to an organized religion’s version of him/her. As an agnostic, no religious service should bother you, that is the point of being agnostic, a search for the nature of the divine in multiple ways. The problem is not your girlfriends or her mom, you are lying to yourself about being agnostic.
Also science and religion are not dichotomies. One can be very scientific and believe in God.
Also science and religion are not dichotomies. One can be very scientific and believe in God.
This post was edited on 4/12/20 at 12:42 pm
Posted on 4/12/20 at 12:42 pm to FreddieMac
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Agnostic means you believe in god
This may be your definition, but it is not the majority agreed-upon definition
This post was edited on 4/12/20 at 12:42 pm
Posted on 4/12/20 at 12:42 pm to FreddieMac
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Agnostic means you believe in god, you just do not subscribe to an organized religion’s version of him/her. As an agnostic, no religious service should bother you, that is the point of being agnostic, a search for the nature of the divine in multiple ways. The problem is not your girlfriends or her mom, you are lying to yourself about being agnostic.
Not really. An agnostic doesn't really believe either way. I dont know if there is a creator, I also dont know that there isn't one.
Man made religion is bullshite though. It's just another way to control people.
This post was edited on 4/12/20 at 12:43 pm
Posted on 4/12/20 at 12:43 pm to yankeeundercover
My wife is thinking of converting to Catholicism. It's the only thing that helps her severe depression. I was raised Southern Baptist and it's completely anathema to the way I was brought up, but I support her 100%.
Posted on 4/12/20 at 12:43 pm to yankeeundercover
Christians, lawlz
Posted on 4/12/20 at 12:43 pm to FreddieMac
quote:Agnostic means you believe the existence of God is unknowable. Someone who doesn't claim to believe nor disbelieve.
Agnostic means you believe in god,
Posted on 4/12/20 at 12:44 pm to yankeeundercover
Biggest issue: if she's Catholic why are they watching Joel Osteen?
Posted on 4/12/20 at 12:46 pm to Booyow
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You can’t just tolerate it for an hour without turning into a little bitch? By the way you type, I guarantee that she’s listened to your self-important incessant rambling a time or two. It’s give and take, bro
Yea if everything is perfect except you had to watch a tv show you didnt like for an hour... gotta get over yourself a bit.
Posted on 4/12/20 at 12:46 pm to yankeeundercover
From your perspective she believes in Something you don’t think is real.
From hers you are haughtily denying the existence of God.
As an agnostic myself, those aren’t even close to comparable. Just let them watch their program you fricking arrogant douche.
From hers you are haughtily denying the existence of God.
As an agnostic myself, those aren’t even close to comparable. Just let them watch their program you fricking arrogant douche.
Posted on 4/12/20 at 12:47 pm to tiggerthetooth
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Why does that matter? Its explicitly written in the bible NOT to judge.
This is the most misconstrued verse in human history. Read the whole thing in context, Jesus isn’t telling us NOT to make judgments, he is actually telling us HOW to make judgments. He’s saying don’t be a hypocrite. If you have a particular sin in your life don’t go judging someone else about the same thing until it’s dealt with in your own life.
Jesus/the Bible is clear there are things we should make judgments on. Saying rape, murder, etc are wrong is a judgement.
Posted on 4/12/20 at 12:57 pm to yankeeundercover
ah..Religion, the best way find out who is afraid to die.
* without reading further let me guess that this thread turn into a pissing match?
* without reading further let me guess that this thread turn into a pissing match?
Posted on 4/12/20 at 12:59 pm to Crow Pie
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without reading further let me guess that this thread turn into a pissing match?
?
Just Christians losing respect the more they speak.
The normal stuff.
Posted on 4/12/20 at 1:00 pm to yankeeundercover
quote:mankind's logic has always been a failure. either way, you're going with sight over faith which is the exact opposite of what is best.
whereas I believe in logic/science/etc.
you people would be wiser to remember that Osteen isn't who is going to judge you or whom you'll be judged against. Osteen doesn't properly represent Christ, but your take on Osteen won't keep you out of hell.
Posted on 4/12/20 at 1:03 pm to LSUBFA83
quote:my parents do this. i still dont know why. i despise him
Biggest issue: if she's Catholic why are they watching Joel Osteen?
Posted on 4/12/20 at 1:03 pm to yankeeundercover
I am pretty agnostic, but I go to church with my wife. I have actually come to enjoy it because it gives me an hour to reflect on what is important in life.
We don’t have kids yet either, but I would like for them to go to church. I am not going to argue with them about the existence of God if they have doubts, but I would like for them to grow up with the same moral values that I did.
Watching Joel Osteen will not be good for you though, because he is in fact a huckster, POS.
Find a church that does not push a very strict orthodox, literal interpretation of the Bible. There are plenty of good modern applications of the principles of the Bible. Just search around until you find a church that fits you. They come in all shapes and sizes.
We don’t have kids yet either, but I would like for them to go to church. I am not going to argue with them about the existence of God if they have doubts, but I would like for them to grow up with the same moral values that I did.
Watching Joel Osteen will not be good for you though, because he is in fact a huckster, POS.
Find a church that does not push a very strict orthodox, literal interpretation of the Bible. There are plenty of good modern applications of the principles of the Bible. Just search around until you find a church that fits you. They come in all shapes and sizes.
This post was edited on 4/12/20 at 1:11 pm
Posted on 4/12/20 at 1:05 pm to Crow Pie
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Man made religion is bullshite though. It's just another way to control people.
quote:
Religion, the best way find out who is afraid to die.
Religious Person - "Just listen to me and meet me in Heaven cause God is good!"
Agnostic Person - "But I am not sure I believe in this Heaven"
Religious Person - "Then you are going to hell for an eternity"
Agnostic Person - Good God?
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