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re: I 100% support vigilante justice and wish it were legal.
Posted on 12/14/25 at 11:42 am to Breesus
Posted on 12/14/25 at 11:42 am to Breesus
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How exactly would you write the laws to allow legal vigilante justice?
You do it the exact same way that activist judges have decriminalized all sorts of crime.
You just ignore it when it happens. If police do arrest somebody that bodies a chomo, you just toss the case and let them out.
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Posted on 12/14/25 at 12:01 pm to Joshjrn
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You really, really don’t. For every one time you get to rejoice over the murder of a pedophile, you’ll have a dozen instances of idiot mobs getting lathered up by someone with an agenda.
We could legalize it just for the killing of pedophiles.
But then you’d run into people blaming people of being a pedo just to take them out.
But some cases law or no law… a pedo is a walking dead man.
Posted on 12/14/25 at 12:07 pm to Geekboy
Vigilante justice is too subjective and arbitrary. For example most of the drive-by shootings and violence in the hood is vigilante justice.
Why not just advocate for tougher sentencing instead?
Why not just advocate for tougher sentencing instead?
Posted on 12/14/25 at 1:03 pm to Odysseus32
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Our entire justice system is predicated upon the basis that we must know for certain. For certain. Not one single doubt.
Wrong. It’s just beyond a reasonable doubt.
Posted on 12/14/25 at 1:09 pm to Geekboy
It's all well and good until the mob decides to kill someone who is actually innocent or worse the mob has been tricked to killing someone who has something that someone else wants they figured out how to manipulate the mob to killing for their personal gain.
It would be better to have swift justice, harsh and codified so that the person got their trial then paid quickly afterwards.
It would be better to have swift justice, harsh and codified so that the person got their trial then paid quickly afterwards.
Posted on 12/14/25 at 1:15 pm to Geekboy
Vigilante justice can be legal if choreographed properly.
~Paul Kersey
~Paul Kersey
Posted on 12/14/25 at 1:20 pm to Geekboy
I agree in VERY specific cases. For example, we've read far too many stories where a parent discovers a pedo who's broken into their home (sometimes several times) and raped their kid and caught them in the act.
Frankly if I'm that parent I don't even call the police, I call Waste Management to pick up the corpse
Frankly if I'm that parent I don't even call the police, I call Waste Management to pick up the corpse
This post was edited on 12/14/25 at 1:24 pm
Posted on 12/14/25 at 5:42 pm to Geekboy
"Cops aren't there to protect citizens from criminals.....it's the other way around"
Posted on 12/14/25 at 6:13 pm to Geekboy
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Shocking moment killer paedophile is shot dead in the street just hours after he was freed from prison
Posted on 12/14/25 at 9:03 pm to Geekboy
This why we need the Mafia. They would take care of it when it was necessary. The people who lived in neighborhoods in Brooklyn, Queens, Howard Beach were able to leave their doors unlocked at night.
Posted on 12/14/25 at 9:06 pm to Odysseus32
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Who is to say this guy wasn’t rehabilitated?
I read a statistic that 94% of sex offenders don't re-offend. Surprised me for sure. Of course that was across all SOs and not just pedos.
Posted on 12/15/25 at 6:27 am to Geekboy
It’s only illegal if you get caught
Posted on 12/15/25 at 8:42 am to Breesus
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How exactly would you write the laws to allow legal vigilante justice?
Wouldn’t it just cascade? Like if you executed someone for your own version of vigilante justice couldn’t someone from that person’s life execute you. And so on and so forth until there remains only one.
Of course this would be the case. There is a reason we have a society, because the majority of us decide how the rest of us are going to behave and live. Its human nature. All of these folks wishing for vigilante justice and civil war and all manner of silly shite are merely emotionally unstable and immature adults who have lead a life of immeasurable ease and have concluded it is due to their wit and grit. Most of them couldn't go to Home Depot and buy a tomato plant in April and eat a tomato off the damned thing in July but dream of being self reliant and rugged individuals.
Posted on 12/15/25 at 8:54 am to Geekboy
Not posting to the OP but simply because the OP was the OP.....
For all of the posters in this thread claiming that vigilante justice is called for due to the system failing and being a farce you really ought to take a look at the trend in crime, especially violent crime, in the US, and prison populations. Despite the irrational fears stoked by journalists and politicians who profit from ignorance and fear and mistrust both have been trending down significantly for about 20 years. When you look at who is committing most crimes it is indeed the same person doing so over and over again. Most of their crimes are committed before they are arrested and convicted of a serious crime but once that happens they tend to stay in prison a LOOOOONNNNNGGGGGGG time and return to prison pretty damned quickly. While there are ample anecdotal examples to the contrary it is not as widespread as many irrationally believe and it is certainly not widespread enough to create an atmosphere where vigilante justice is called for on any sort of scale....that's an insane idea.
That said if someone harms someone close to you your handling that person as you see fit should not come down to a decision about the legality of your actions. If shooting the bastard who rapes your daughter being illegal is what is preventing you from doing so you weren't intent on doing so in the first place. For a myriad of reasons.
For all of the posters in this thread claiming that vigilante justice is called for due to the system failing and being a farce you really ought to take a look at the trend in crime, especially violent crime, in the US, and prison populations. Despite the irrational fears stoked by journalists and politicians who profit from ignorance and fear and mistrust both have been trending down significantly for about 20 years. When you look at who is committing most crimes it is indeed the same person doing so over and over again. Most of their crimes are committed before they are arrested and convicted of a serious crime but once that happens they tend to stay in prison a LOOOOONNNNNGGGGGGG time and return to prison pretty damned quickly. While there are ample anecdotal examples to the contrary it is not as widespread as many irrationally believe and it is certainly not widespread enough to create an atmosphere where vigilante justice is called for on any sort of scale....that's an insane idea.
That said if someone harms someone close to you your handling that person as you see fit should not come down to a decision about the legality of your actions. If shooting the bastard who rapes your daughter being illegal is what is preventing you from doing so you weren't intent on doing so in the first place. For a myriad of reasons.
Posted on 12/15/25 at 8:59 am to AwgustaDawg
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both have been trending down significantly for about 20 years
A lot of that is because many jurisdictions won't report or reclassify incidents as either not criminal or a lesser degree of crime. Also, there are large departments and cities who will no longer forward their crime statistics to the FBI data center.
Posted on 12/15/25 at 9:01 am to SludgeFactory
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With the rate that progressive judges release criminals like this (and worse), I wouldn't be shocked to see this type of "justice" happen more often in the future.
Didn’t one in Portland or Seattle just release one b/c the victim told him to stop stabbing me you nagger. Dude is just trying to survive and drops the N word and it equates to getting off an attempted murder charge.
If I’m the victim, vigilante justice doesn’t sound so bad…
Posted on 12/15/25 at 9:05 am to Geekboy
Would it be vigilante justice if it were legal?
I agree with your point and there absolutely should be laws that protect people who do something most parents would do if they had the opportunity to do so. But I would want them to suffer.
As in, beat the piss out of them, chain the up in a shed. Don't give them no water and food for a few days then after that just give them the bare minimum to eat and drink. A piece of bread and a small cup of water. Every few weeks I will hose them down. Get them addicted to pain meds and then just stop giving it to them for a few days, then give it to them again and just keep doing that to them.
I agree with your point and there absolutely should be laws that protect people who do something most parents would do if they had the opportunity to do so. But I would want them to suffer.
As in, beat the piss out of them, chain the up in a shed. Don't give them no water and food for a few days then after that just give them the bare minimum to eat and drink. A piece of bread and a small cup of water. Every few weeks I will hose them down. Get them addicted to pain meds and then just stop giving it to them for a few days, then give it to them again and just keep doing that to them.
Posted on 12/15/25 at 10:39 am to SoFla Tideroller
[quote]A lot of that is because many jurisdictions won't report or reclassify incidents as either not criminal or a lesser degree of crime. Also, there are large departments and cities who will no longer forward their crime statistics to the FBI data center.[/quote
I would posit that the numbers are offset by the uptick in Police agencies around the country, for some inexplicable reason, reporting an uptick in crime that coincided with the ridiculous notion of defunding the police. Anecdotally my son was robbed at gunpoint on the street in Aurora Colorado in 2018 and when he called the police they asked if he wanted them to come out and take a report. He was 18 at the time and thus was of the opinion that the police knew how to do their job so he told them that was up to them. They chose not to do so. It is unlikely that they would have made that decision with some small segment of morons openly talking about cutting their funding...nothing will quell such talk like the idea of an uptick in crime.
Whatever the cause the fact is that crime has been trending down for quite some time. If it is due to police not reporting crime, in other words police not doing their job, it is probably time to revisit the whole "defund the police" idea because if them not doing their job on a widespread scale they should not be paid, period. I doubt that anyone seriously thinks them not doing their job is the reason crime has been trending down but it is certainly something that should be looked into....
I would posit that the numbers are offset by the uptick in Police agencies around the country, for some inexplicable reason, reporting an uptick in crime that coincided with the ridiculous notion of defunding the police. Anecdotally my son was robbed at gunpoint on the street in Aurora Colorado in 2018 and when he called the police they asked if he wanted them to come out and take a report. He was 18 at the time and thus was of the opinion that the police knew how to do their job so he told them that was up to them. They chose not to do so. It is unlikely that they would have made that decision with some small segment of morons openly talking about cutting their funding...nothing will quell such talk like the idea of an uptick in crime.
Whatever the cause the fact is that crime has been trending down for quite some time. If it is due to police not reporting crime, in other words police not doing their job, it is probably time to revisit the whole "defund the police" idea because if them not doing their job on a widespread scale they should not be paid, period. I doubt that anyone seriously thinks them not doing their job is the reason crime has been trending down but it is certainly something that should be looked into....
Posted on 12/15/25 at 10:44 am to AwgustaDawg
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They chose not to do so. It is unlikely that they would have made that decision with some small segment of morons openly talking about cutting their funding...nothing will quell such talk like the idea of an uptick in crime.
Actually, most cities and mayors' offices pressure law enforcement to underreport crime so they can trumpet to the citizenry at election time that "all is well". I could tell you several instances that I had directly with this but I'd get a "TL:DR".
Posted on 12/15/25 at 11:04 am to Geekboy
It’s all fun and games until someone kills you for being a retard.
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