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re: how Harvard’s composition would change if admission based solely on being top decile

Posted on 10/18/18 at 12:41 pm to
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 10/18/18 at 12:41 pm to
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We are so fricking bad at making sure the most capable minds attend the schools where their talents are maximized


If Harvard continues cherry picking its undergraduates based on social justice, then it will no longer be the place where student talents are maximized.

I’d be interested in the average selection of majors among the different racial groups.
Posted by LSUtigerMD
Member since Nov 2005
1169 posts
Posted on 10/18/18 at 12:41 pm to
Look at the difference between who is accepted to LSU med school in New Orleans vs Shreveport. The demographics are very different and so are the test scores and academic records. At least, it was 20 yrs ago.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 10/18/18 at 12:42 pm to
Posted by DarthRebel
Tier Five is Alive
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 10/18/18 at 12:47 pm to
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On the one hand its a private school, so I dont really care who they let in.


There are going to lose. You cannot be against discrimination but apply it for diversity.
Posted by stewie
Member since Jan 2006
4032 posts
Posted on 10/18/18 at 12:48 pm to
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admittance was based solely on GPA and MCAT scores every entering class would be 95% Asian.




Yeah ... no.
Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
34325 posts
Posted on 10/18/18 at 12:49 pm to
LSU should spread the word out on the west coast that if Harvard denies you and your test scores are in that top 5%, we will take you in a heart beat.

shite, reduced tuition if you submit your rejection letter from Harvard.
Posted by SeeeeK
some where
Member since Sep 2012
30763 posts
Posted on 10/18/18 at 12:50 pm to
lol

from 15% to under 1%
Posted by pjab
Member since Mar 2016
5773 posts
Posted on 10/18/18 at 1:01 pm to
My Korean friend told me the Korean kids spend their summers with a tutor learning the material for the next TWO grade levels!
Posted by JJ27
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 10/18/18 at 1:08 pm to
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It is already practiced by every medical school in America, if admittance was based solely on GPA and MCAT scores every entering class would be 95% Asian.



Seems like 95% of doctors I encounter are Asian, with most being Indian. So how much worse could it be?
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 10/18/18 at 1:11 pm to
Asians wouldnt be swayed by liberal teachings. This is about culture not academics
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 10/18/18 at 1:12 pm to
Moreover, why is that a bad thing? I want the smartest, best doctors possible regardless of race.
Posted by KillTheGophers
Member since Jan 2016
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Posted on 10/18/18 at 1:14 pm to
Oh shite

Let me be page 1
Posted by lnomm34
Louisiana
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Posted on 10/18/18 at 1:15 pm to
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Posted by JJ27
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 10/18/18 at 1:18 pm to
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Moreover, why is that a bad thing? I want the smartest, best doctors possible regardless of race.




The only beef with most foreign born doctors seems to be their attitudes toward women. I've never had a problem really with any doctor I've worked with, while I've seen some be flat out assholes to the women in my department.
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 10/18/18 at 1:20 pm to
Jews say hi
Posted by elposter
Member since Dec 2010
26751 posts
Posted on 10/18/18 at 1:24 pm to
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You cannot be against discrimination but apply it for diversity.



You are applying the old "equality" of opportunity paradigm. That didn't work so we've move to the new "equity" of outcome paradigm. Keep up!



or the politically incorrect one:

Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46682 posts
Posted on 10/18/18 at 1:27 pm to
That second infographic is basically saying black kids are stupid and incapable of learning the material the white kids learn.

I mean...it may just be me...but isn't that kind of...racist?
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
71828 posts
Posted on 10/18/18 at 1:27 pm to
I'll say it:

We need forced diversity at this point, not to prop up certain minorities, but to prevent our entire country from subsidizing the eventual domination of the world by our Asian overlords.
Posted by BRIllini07
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2015
3211 posts
Posted on 10/18/18 at 1:28 pm to
I don’t know, when evaluating the accomplishments of 17 year olds there is something to be said for evaluating hardship vs having your parents craft your very existence.

Trailer trash kid who managed to stay off the same meth his single mom and deadbeat dad were using en route to a 3.95 GPA solely on his own motivation probably has a higher ceiling than a 3.98 kid who’s parents forced them to study until midnight and called the school that one time little Timmy got an A-

Of course this only works across hardship lines, and not ethnic lines. This data says if you’re a poor Asian kid you are truly fricked, and the world will continue to hold Bill Gates’ success against the trailer trash white kids of the world.
Posted by elposter
Member since Dec 2010
26751 posts
Posted on 10/18/18 at 1:29 pm to
quote:

That second infographic is basically saying black kids are stupid and incapable of learning the material the white kids learn.

I mean...it may just be me...but isn't that kind of...racist?


That's why I called it the "politically incorrect" version.
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