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re: how Harvard’s composition would change if admission based solely on being top decile

Posted on 10/18/18 at 3:12 pm to
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
29116 posts
Posted on 10/18/18 at 3:12 pm to
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If Harvard continues cherry picking its undergraduates based on social justice, then it will no longer be the place where student talents are maximized.


You clearly don't understand the applicant pool for Harvard or MIT or any of the elite colleges. They have so many highly qualified applicants of every color, stripe and ethnicity that they can almost chose randomly among their qualified applicants. If they want a chair to have a black student, they have 10 super-qualified black students that they can put in that chair. They can pretty much do whatever racial or ethnic mix they want and still have a class populated entirely of elite students.
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
60099 posts
Posted on 10/18/18 at 3:13 pm to
I could of went to Harvard but I make more as a welder
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
30130 posts
Posted on 10/18/18 at 3:21 pm to
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Look at the difference between who is accepted to LSU med school in New Orleans vs Shreveport. The demographics are very different and so are the test scores and academic records. At least, it was 20 yrs ago.

LSU NOLA attracts the better students and I also believe it to have better education. I don't think the demographics are different now, however.
Posted by tonydtigr
Beautiful Downtown Glenn Springs,Tx
Member since Nov 2011
6846 posts
Posted on 10/18/18 at 3:23 pm to
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I would like to see a college where you fill out your application completely anonymous, your high school submits your grades and test scores with no names or race tied to them. This would be truly unbiased and fair, and actual equal opportunity.




I've been saying this for years. It should be illegal for someone to ask you your race on any application if the "actual goal" is to achieve true equality.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
175643 posts
Posted on 10/18/18 at 3:24 pm to
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So you're saying that whites and Asians are held to a higher standard because of their ethnic background?

Racist?

No

Asians are held to a much higher standard. So much so that it's handicapped to benefit even white people
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
30130 posts
Posted on 10/18/18 at 3:25 pm to
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During our M1 year, we found out that the 15 african american students were offered to take a summer gross anantomy class before taking the actual gross anantomy with the rest of our M1 class. I think 2 of the 3 that actually finished refused the summer course.


LSU New Orleans has something similar, and the entire point is to help prop up the weaker students.
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
35522 posts
Posted on 10/18/18 at 3:55 pm to
The Twitter commenters don't disappoint, as usual. But they do confirm I live in an alternate universe from most of them.

I loved the one where the original Tweeter said it wasn't good or bad he was just posting the study. And some idiot compared the study to someone being kicked in the head. Wat??
This post was edited on 10/18/18 at 3:56 pm
Posted by skullhawk
My house
Member since Nov 2007
27994 posts
Posted on 10/18/18 at 4:07 pm to
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really want to meet the Asians in the lower IQ ranges. They are definitely not here states' side.


Go to Asia. Billions of em.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
64544 posts
Posted on 10/18/18 at 4:09 pm to
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You clearly don't understand the applicant pool for Harvard or MIT or any of the elite colleges. They have so many highly qualified applicants of every color, stripe and ethnicity that they can almost chose randomly among their qualified applicants. If they want a chair to have a black student, they have 10 super-qualified black students that they can put in that chair. They can pretty much do whatever racial or ethnic mix they want and still have a class populated entirely of elite students.


I think you're exaggerating to a certain extent.
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 10/18/18 at 4:20 pm to
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Sports teams suck lol

Start a table tennis or badminton league and see what happens, roundeye.
Posted by LoneStarRanger
Texas/Europe
Member since Aug 2018
2404 posts
Posted on 10/18/18 at 4:21 pm to
Many of those Asians aren’t Americans.

We should encourage our universities (public and private) to educate the rest of the world?
Posted by WaltTeevens
Santa Barbara, CA
Member since Dec 2013
12044 posts
Posted on 10/18/18 at 4:24 pm to
Harvard doesn't want to become an Asian nerd factory, and I don't blame them.
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 10/18/18 at 4:29 pm to
quote:

You clearly don't understand the applicant pool for Harvard or MIT or any of the elite colleges. They have so many highly qualified applicants of every color, stripe and ethnicity that they can almost chose randomly among their qualified applicants. If they want a chair to have a black student, they have 10 super-qualified black students that they can put in that chair. They can pretty much do whatever racial or ethnic mix they want and still have a class populated entirely of elite students.



Oh horse shite

No matter what bullshite you spew they are discriminating against more qualified people

figures a fricking leftist would support "good" racism
Posted by 14&Counting
Dallas, TX
Member since Jul 2012
42401 posts
Posted on 10/18/18 at 4:32 pm to
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I would like to see a college where you fill out your application completely anonymous, your high school submits your grades and test scores with no names or race tied to them. This would be truly unbiased and fair, and actual equal opportunity.



I need my white privledge
Posted by Morty
Member since Feb 2018
2252 posts
Posted on 10/18/18 at 4:38 pm to
I could see a college’s point of view. They want to create an environment that preps people for the real world and the real United States is not 98% Asian
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91871 posts
Posted on 10/18/18 at 4:48 pm to
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I would like to see a college where you fill out your application completely anonymous, your high school submits your grades and test scores with no names or race tied to them. This would be truly unbiased and fair, and actual equal opportunity.


But that's not all college is about.

I'd be fine if they excluded race/sexual orientation, but your entire profile as a student is more than just your GPA and test scores.

ETA - Harvard should accept a well rounded class of students who are smart enough, not necessarily the smartest kids only. Race/sex shouldn't matter.
This post was edited on 10/18/18 at 4:50 pm
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91871 posts
Posted on 10/18/18 at 4:50 pm to
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they are discriminating against more qualified people


If they're considering race, they are IMO.

If they're not letting you in because you have the personality of a door knob, they're not.
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
46960 posts
Posted on 10/18/18 at 5:18 pm to
Read the statistics in the OP. It doesn’t support what you are saying.
Posted by Broken Arrow
Member since Dec 2007
8493 posts
Posted on 10/18/18 at 7:07 pm to
Barry is a 47%er you dolt. He’s half black.
Posted by celltech1981
Member since Jul 2014
8139 posts
Posted on 10/18/18 at 7:12 pm to
He has an IQ of around 140. I didnt like him as a president but to say he isnt a smart man is flat out wrong.
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