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how Harvard’s composition would change if admission based solely on being top decile

Posted on 10/18/18 at 12:16 pm
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 10/18/18 at 12:16 pm
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If Harvard admitted students based solely on the applicant scoring in the top decile of an "academic index" (=test scores + HS performance), the racial/ethnic composition of its freshman class would be expected to change as follows:

White -6%
Black -94%
Hispanic -82%
Asian +108%



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We are so fricking bad at making sure the most capable minds attend the schools where their talents are maximized
This post was edited on 10/18/18 at 12:19 pm
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 10/18/18 at 12:18 pm to
This should be good.
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
12458 posts
Posted on 10/18/18 at 12:19 pm to
So if they actually only admitted smart people 94 out of every 100 blacks currently on campus wouldn't be there?

Checks out

Posted by Rouge
Floston Paradise
Member since Oct 2004
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Posted on 10/18/18 at 12:19 pm to
So you're saying that whites and Asians are held to a higher standard because of their ethnic background?

Racist?
Posted by TOSOV
Member since Jan 2016
8922 posts
Posted on 10/18/18 at 12:19 pm to
Asians take advantage of the anchor baby law better than any others. China especially.
Posted by yellowfin
Coastal Bar
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99034 posts
Posted on 10/18/18 at 12:20 pm to
Groundbreaking
Posted by rowbear1922
Houston, TX
Member since Oct 2008
15825 posts
Posted on 10/18/18 at 12:20 pm to
I'll never understand how it's not illegal/racist for schools to only accept a certain number of Asian students in order to allow less qualified other races. If I was turned down from a top tier school only because I was Asian, I'd attempt some kind of lawsuit.
Posted by EyeTwentyNole
Member since Mar 2015
4199 posts
Posted on 10/18/18 at 12:21 pm to
Ruh roh
Posted by mikelbr
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
49099 posts
Posted on 10/18/18 at 12:21 pm to
Well if that don't validate the Bell Curve Theory...
Posted by CoachMoorGut
Member since Sep 2018
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Posted on 10/18/18 at 12:22 pm to


Old photo of a 94%er.
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
12458 posts
Posted on 10/18/18 at 12:22 pm to
quote:

I'll never understand how it's not illegal/racist for schools to only accept a certain number of Asian students in order to allow less qualified other races. If I was turned down from a top tier school only because I was Asian, I'd attempt some kind of lawsuit.


Um you do realize Harvard has been sued for exactly this and the case is going before the Supreme Court, don't you?
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 10/18/18 at 12:22 pm to
On the one hand its a private school, so I dont really care who they let in.

On the other I dont like the precedent they set, as it will be used by other colleges as some sort of "best practice" idea.
Posted by rowbear1922
Houston, TX
Member since Oct 2008
15825 posts
Posted on 10/18/18 at 12:24 pm to
quote:

Um you do realize Harvard has been sued for exactly this and the case is going before the Supreme Court, don't you?


Nope. I do know they are no where near the only school that does this. I mean it wouldn't matter my race because I was too dumb to get into those schools period, but it's complete BS they can turn down more qualified students.

Posted by yellowfin
Coastal Bar
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99034 posts
Posted on 10/18/18 at 12:25 pm to
All colleges use this

Plus Harvard gets lots of government money
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 10/18/18 at 12:27 pm to
If it was based solely on merit, they wouldn't need to turn the lights on
Posted by AbitaFan08
Boston, MA
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 10/18/18 at 12:32 pm to
quote:

Um you do realize Harvard has been sued for exactly this and the case is going before the Supreme Court, don't you?


Um, you do realize Harvard has been sued for exactly this and the case is going before a federal district court in Boston and not the Supreme Court, don't you?
Posted by rowbear1922
Houston, TX
Member since Oct 2008
15825 posts
Posted on 10/18/18 at 12:35 pm to



So if this were the case, using the ethnicity breakdown there were:
308 Blacks admitted when should have been 19
463 Asians admitted when should have been 1001
248 Hispanics admitted when should have been 45
957 Whites admitted when it should have been 900
This post was edited on 10/18/18 at 12:38 pm
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
66988 posts
Posted on 10/18/18 at 12:36 pm to
TIL: 25% of Harvard freshmen are Asians.
Posted by al_cajun
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2017
2442 posts
Posted on 10/18/18 at 12:37 pm to
I would like to see a college where you fill out your application completely anonymous, your high school submits your grades and test scores with no names or race tied to them. This would be truly unbiased and fair, and actual equal opportunity.
This post was edited on 10/18/18 at 12:41 pm
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 10/18/18 at 12:39 pm to
quote:

On the other I dont like the precedent they set, as it will be used by other colleges as some sort of "best practice" idea.


It is already practiced by every medical school in America, if admittance was based solely on GPA and MCAT scores every entering class would be 95% Asian.
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