re: Ford Expedition or Chevy Suburban

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The Ford option looks nice but have never owned a Ford.

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Have the regular sized Expedition (Not the Max). Its been great. Only issues are the native navigation (easy workaround with your cell phone) and the gear knob (you get used to it after a bit)

Tremor Expedition

To all the people talking about Honda Odysseys, Pilots and all that--I wouldn't buy a new 3.5L because they changed their VCM.

That VCM is a piece of shite and will blow your engine up. The older versions could be bypassed, but Honda revamped the last year or two and most (if not all) aftermarket tuners won't work on the new engine.

Also, a tuner could void the warranty. But you're damn near forced to try to bypass the VCM or risk premature catastrophic engine failure.

The old ones could be tricked with aftermarket tuners to think the engine wasn't up to operating temperature. The cylinders would not shut down if the engine wasn't at temp. But I'm pretty sure Honda changed that shite and the tuners won't work on new engines.

If they'd ditch the VCM, I'd buy my wife a new Passport tomorrow.

The OT is slipping, not one mention of the lack of station wagons these days.

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Engine ain't the issue with the Tahoe/Suburban it's the transmission which will go out after 125k miles

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I’m at 90k on my ‘23 and they just had to “flush the trans fluid” to fix a sputtering issue. Of course it’s well known and the warranty on the powertrain diesel is100k. This trans will inevitably crap out after it’s out of warranty

Recently bought a new expedition after having suburban for a few years. Really was trying to get away from GM for awhile as I’ve had some bad luck with their vehicles over the recent years.

I love the expedition so far. We drove the platinum for a few days but settled on the active. Couldn’t make myself pay that much more for the difference in options. The active I guess is considered the bottom of the trim levels for the expedition but had everything and more than the suburban has.

We have the ford expedition max. Wife had a surburban before. We originally wanted captain chairs for the second row but we changed our minds . We got the bench row for the second row bc it fold down damn near flat and is nice to have when on vacation or need extra room in the back.

Suburban is great. They seem to hold better value than the Expedition Max on the used market.

I was a Chevy guy forever. Got my Expedition Max in '22. Runs great. It a turbo charged V6. I do not pull ever, so it works for me. Does fine in traffic.

We also have a Kia Carnival '24. I love driving it. We wanted a Sienna but they come at a price premium, but hold value. I do not have a lot of experience with the Odyssey, but rented one from Houston when trying to get back to Laffy with flight issues. It seemed nice. I do not think you can go wrong with either minivan if you chose that route.

As for the Telluride, and the smaller 3rd row SUVs, My kids are 12 and up, so they didn't comfortably fit in the 3rd row of those size (explorer, telluride, palisade, Acadia, traverse, highlander, etc...) You can put full sized adults in the 3rd row of the Tahoe/Suburban and Expedition/Max. The Sub and ExMax will give you good room behind the 3rd row to put luggage for trips. The Tahoe/Ex regular will not have much behind the 3rd row. The minivans will have good room in the back for luggage and will be fine for adults in the back as well. Very under utilized as they are probably the most efficient for large families (I have 5 kids).

I hope this helps.

Sprinter van. Put in as many seats as you need. Convert to RV when kids are gone !