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re: Exxon Suspending 401K 6% Match in October

Posted on 8/6/20 at 8:23 am to
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
75989 posts
Posted on 8/6/20 at 8:23 am to
neato. some of us can see the forest thru the trees fortunately.

quote:

Maybe when you get a few days off from flipping burgers you will still drive to Biloxi for the weekend,


the personal shots. love it.
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
26628 posts
Posted on 8/6/20 at 8:39 am to
quote:

This is a good way to lose your top talent to competitors. While 6% is not a huge hit for most people, this may just be the beginning and those that can leave, will likely do so.


Exxon is known for competitive pay and benefits. If they don't reinstate the match after the company gets back on track, they definitely run the risk of losing talent....especially if competitors are offering a match.

To be frank, unemployment is almost 11% because of Covid and a drop in oil/gas prices. I would much prefer losing the match temporarily to losing valuable team members or even being laid off.
This post was edited on 8/6/20 at 8:43 am
Posted by Janky
Team Primo
Member since Jun 2011
35957 posts
Posted on 8/6/20 at 8:42 am to
Any and everyone in that industry are probably just happy to have a job right now.
Posted by Big4SALTbro
Member since Jun 2019
25328 posts
Posted on 8/6/20 at 8:46 am to
This honestly should be the first move for any company during a down turn. It is a lot better than laying people off or slashing salaries.

This pandemic will reveal a lot about companies. The larger accounting firms are going with cut the match and then moving to fake bad reviews to then try to push people out so they can avoid the layoff tag
Posted by tigburls
Member since Feb 2010
601 posts
Posted on 8/6/20 at 8:47 am to
We've had company wide salary reductions, 401k match removed, and no longer accrue PTO. No one is bitching because no one has been furloughed or laid off. Losing a 401k match temporarily in today's environment is nothing.
Posted by Big4SALTbro
Member since Jun 2019
25328 posts
Posted on 8/6/20 at 8:51 am to
Salary reduction pisses me off a lot more than taking away a match or even bonus.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
61657 posts
Posted on 8/6/20 at 8:52 am to
The good times are over for good
Posted by shawnlsu
Member since Nov 2011
23682 posts
Posted on 8/6/20 at 8:53 am to
Bet that CEO's bonus isn't cut at the end of the year.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
72925 posts
Posted on 8/6/20 at 8:55 am to
My CEO took a 50% salary cut, all executives took a 30%, and all salary employees got between 10 and 25% depending on classification. No bonuses. The company is currently raking in the cash and it sucksssssss.

Its what it is though. I'm extremely bitter about it, impossible not to be. Its keeping me my job though.
This post was edited on 8/6/20 at 8:56 am
Posted by AndyCBR
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2012
8355 posts
Posted on 8/6/20 at 8:55 am to
quote:


The good times are over for good




I hope you’re wrong.

2008 says hello....

As far as the O/G downturn there’s a dip in that market pretty regularly for one reason or another.

This too shall pass.
Posted by Gorilla Ball
Az via La
Member since Feb 2006
13386 posts
Posted on 8/6/20 at 9:00 am to
Nothing has changed with our company- match 401k, no layoffs, we just have about 700 employees working from home- we’ve been lucky.
Posted by Floyd Dawg
Silver Creek, GA
Member since Jul 2018
5774 posts
Posted on 8/6/20 at 9:05 am to
quote:

They made 15B last year.


Useless without context. What was their profit margin? Last I checked, it was in the 8-10% range, which is really low.

Looked it up, it was about 8%. Here's the chart I used-

XOM Profit Margin
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
19366 posts
Posted on 8/6/20 at 9:07 am to
Don't worry no matter how many people are laid off, or compensation is cut the execs will still get a fat bonus.

Touchdown capitalism!!!!!!
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
61832 posts
Posted on 8/6/20 at 9:08 am to
quote:

My CEO took a 50% salary cut, all executives took a 30%


Our CEO and executive board will get no bonus and no raises next year just like everyone else at the company.

They haven't touched our 401-K match, but if they do I would be fine with it for a while because I have common sense and appreciate the hell out of keeping my job during this crap.

Like all normal employees I have stock and appreciate that the leaders are doing what they can to keep the stock prices in a good place.
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11843 posts
Posted on 8/6/20 at 9:14 am to
quote:

What was their profit margin? Last I checked, it was in the 8-10% range, which is really low.


This is useless without context. What is there normal profit margin? What is industry standard. 8-10% range looks pretty standard for them.
Posted by RoyalWe
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2018
5359 posts
Posted on 8/6/20 at 9:18 am to
quote:

Hey slap dick. First you’re a poser for trying to sound cool by referencing The Dude.
I must be The Dude because those are my own words. Any commonality with quotes from stoner movies is coincidence.
quote:

....that’s not “capitalism”, that’s GREED. Without ethics, there is no capitalism
What is unethical? Is slavery occurring? Do employees have a right to 401k match? Their books are open to the public. I think we see who the slap dick is in this thread.
Posted by LSUAlum2001
Stavro Mueller Beta
Member since Aug 2003
48912 posts
Posted on 8/6/20 at 9:19 am to
quote:

Actually most companies would have just started layoffs instead


They are doing that as well, but they are borrowing money to continue to pay the dividend.
This post was edited on 8/6/20 at 9:20 am
Posted by CollegeFBRules
Member since Oct 2008
25758 posts
Posted on 8/6/20 at 10:33 am to
quote:

Would you consider 8% of 75,000 plus employees a small lay-off?


They didn’t lay off 8%.
Posted by johnnyrocket
Ghetto once known as Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2013
9790 posts
Posted on 8/6/20 at 10:58 am to
They are trying to cut cost before having to layoff employees.
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
12866 posts
Posted on 8/6/20 at 10:58 am to
quote:

This is useless without context. What is there normal profit margin? What is industry standard. 8-10% range looks pretty standard for them.



You’re not making the point that you think you’re making.
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