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re: Exxon Suspending 401K 6% Match in October

Posted on 8/6/20 at 11:06 am to
Posted by NPComb
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Posted on 8/6/20 at 11:06 am to
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 8/6/20 at 11:07 am to
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This is a good way to lose your top talent to competitors. While 6% is not a huge hit for most people, this may just be the beginning and those that can leave, will likely do so.

Which of XOM’s competitors are hiring?

I agree with your sentiment - companies may very well lose talent when the job market picks back up, if they don’t walk back some of these reductions. But it’s a tough job market at the moment.

It blows my mind that there are a ton of people in this thread (myself included) who have taken salary and/or benefit reductions recently, but a few entitled plant baws are screaming “I can’t believe this is happening to me!! Exxon can’t do this!” As if working for ExxonMobil somehow puts you above market conditions that affect the other 99.9% of the workforce.
This post was edited on 8/6/20 at 11:10 am
Posted by Big4SALTbro
Member since Jun 2019
14899 posts
Posted on 8/6/20 at 11:09 am to
The plant baws are in a tough spot since there are only so many places to land.

Posted by HT713
Galations 4:16
Member since Jan 2011
10028 posts
Posted on 8/6/20 at 11:14 am to
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Cutting workers benefits before cutting dividends.



they have a fiduciary responsibility to their shareholders to be as profitable as they can be

this is capitalism, it's the system we chose

don't like it? go get another job.
Posted by Gee Grenouille
Bogalusa
Member since Jul 2018
4780 posts
Posted on 8/6/20 at 12:35 pm to
They gotta find a way to re-coup the property tax the school board made them pay. Not paying any for decades just wasn't enough.
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
66812 posts
Posted on 8/6/20 at 12:36 pm to
that shite is pennies for XOM you nut.
This post was edited on 8/6/20 at 12:37 pm
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
119165 posts
Posted on 8/6/20 at 12:40 pm to
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It blows my mind that there are a ton of people in this thread (myself included) who have taken salary and/or benefit reductions


I have been blessed as that has not happened to me, and so far my company is continuing it's match, even though it's only 3%, I'll take it.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73681 posts
Posted on 8/6/20 at 12:42 pm to
quote:

I agree with your sentiment - companies may very well lose talent when the job market picks back up, if they don’t walk back some of these reductions. But it’s a tough job market at the moment.



A pretty good amount of quality talent is leaving the industry all together. O&G isn't as secure or well paying in comparison as it used to be.
Posted by Weaver
Madisonville, LA
Member since Nov 2005
27722 posts
Posted on 8/6/20 at 12:59 pm to
Our company did the same in May. Suspended 401K company match.
Posted by Gee Grenouille
Bogalusa
Member since Jul 2018
4780 posts
Posted on 8/6/20 at 1:45 pm to
that shite is pennies for XOM you nut.

then why do they spend so much in lobbying to get out of it? It's only pennies because it's either significantly reduced or completely waived.
Posted by tigercross
Member since Feb 2008
4918 posts
Posted on 8/6/20 at 2:00 pm to
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Tough times hit, and instead of just making modest profits and showing loyalty to the workers they say f—- off.

How can anyone who actually works for a living be ok with this?


Management's loyalty is not to the employees. Management's loyalty is rightfully with the owners of the company.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
20453 posts
Posted on 8/6/20 at 2:35 pm to
Curious how many of their employees own significant stock in the company? Dividend is 8% and they just lost 7% right? HOw many of them have $100,000 of company stock? I have no idea, but I'd guess a pretty decent portion of them?

My point, is that if this is temporary they may actually lose less money as employees with a loss of a 7% 401k match then cutting their dividend.
Posted by Modern
Fiddy Men
Member since May 2011
16877 posts
Posted on 8/6/20 at 6:07 pm to
The 45 year old + crowd mostly put 100% of their 401k in XOM stock. Those days are over.

While the new gen 19-40ish year old aren’t going all in on XOM stock.

Posted by ArkLaTexTiger
Houston
Member since Nov 2009
2463 posts
Posted on 8/6/20 at 6:37 pm to
Too bad. Outside of Israeli's, Iranians and Venezuelans Exxon employees are the biggest collection of assholes.
Posted by Bow dude72
Member since Mar 2017
2330 posts
Posted on 8/6/20 at 7:25 pm to
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This post was edited on 7/8/21 at 12:13 pm
Posted by ulsaint
Member since Oct 2007
2460 posts
Posted on 8/6/20 at 8:34 pm to
quote:

The 45 year old + crowd mostly put 100% of their 401k in XOM stock. Those days are over.


Wow, people really do that? That’s been a terrible investment the last 15 years.
Posted by Modern
Fiddy Men
Member since May 2011
16877 posts
Posted on 8/6/20 at 9:11 pm to
That’s what my uncle did. He retired from XOM 5 years ago.

He said when they hired in, the old guys told them to put it all in the stock. Back then, they didn’t have the option to diversify like now.

He went through 5 stock splits (lucky mofo).
Posted by diat150
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
43553 posts
Posted on 8/6/20 at 9:19 pm to
Pretty crazy that a fortune 5 company is cutting out 401k match. I guess that’s the future where you will be responsible 100% for taking care of your retirement. With the way that the average American saves money I am sure that will go over real well.
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