re: Do you think Optometrists are corrupt?

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Why don't you just ask them to put -6 lenses in your glasses? You're paying for them.

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You don’t even need a verified doctors prescription to order glasses for yourself. So that is an option.

But I mostly wear eye contacts. And with contacts you need a script to order online. The racket is they don’t give you perfect vision contacts. They give you slightly less so that you’ll be sure to come back a year later to get what you should have had the first time.

Lying on the test is certsinly an option but I never thought to do it. My eye doctor seems to want the last smallest line blurred where I barely make it out, ensuring that I come back in a year.

I’ve been in where you are looking thru the machine and they flip to a strong enough power that it’s perfect and I’ll say something like “wow that’s great”, then they don’t give me that. It’s always a power less. I think they justify it by claiming if they make your far vision as sharp as possible, then it will mess with near. But I’d rather have it that anyway.

They’re not as bad as dentists. Plenty of private practice dentists are the same as car salesmen when it comes to add on bs.

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I am near sighted. I feel like every time I go to the eye doctor they don’t give me a strong enough prescription to see clearly fall away. I think it’s so that I’m for sure to come back a year later for a new one

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It's based on the "is 1 or 2 better" set. I haven't had a change for 3 years now. Basically, this is entirely your fault

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You don’t even need a verified doctors prescription to order glasses for yourself. So that is an option.

But I mostly wear eye contacts. And with contacts you need a script to order online. The racket is they don’t give you perfect vision contacts. They give you slightly less so that you’ll be sure to come back a year later to get what you should have had the first time.

Lying on the test is certsinly an option but I never thought to do it. My eye doctor seems to want the last smallest line blurred where I barely make it out, ensuring that I come back in a year.

I’ve been in where you are looking thru the machine and they flip to a strong enough power that it’s perfect and I’ll say something like “wow that’s great”, then they don’t give me that. It’s always a power less. I think they justify it by claiming if they make your far vision as sharp as possible, then it will mess with near. But I’d rather have it that anyway.

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I've worn glasses since I was 5 years old. Never had an eye doctor roll back the corrective lens to keep me coming back. Contact lens prescriptions vary because of lens placement on the eye itself. Changes the focal point.

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My eye doctor seems to want the last smallest line blurred where I barely make it out, ensuring that I come back in a year.

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Is that last line 20/20 or 20/15 or something else? My optometrist usually has a last line that is better than 20/20 just to test if I can get any.

One of the problems with contacts is that you cannot get exact match to prescription like with glasses, and above a certain refraction they use a formula to adjust down contacts for being closer to your eye and different shape than glasses. That is a starting point and then have to find tbe closest 0.25 increment. All that is worse with Toric lens above -6.00 as they start only going up in 0.5 increments instead of 0.25 increments which can make them go up & down with astigmatism correction or the refraction to get to 20/20 while wearing trial pairs. For example if you need -6.13 but a -6.00 in contacts doesn’t get you to 20/20 you now have to jump up to -6.5 and not -6.25, but with astigmatism they also may try to stay at -6:00 but increase the astigmatism correction which I don’t like as eyes are dry and astigmatism correction may not set right when lens dries out.

That extra powering can sometimes cause eye strain viewing things closer and push needing readings glasses sooner or more often or higher power of using already. My doctor has a tendency to go high, and after several weeks I can’t stand them. Too strong for viewing stuff around an arms length to maybe 10ft out. Great for watching TV and driving, but viewing Map app or dashboard while driving is overkill and gives me a headache or if looking back and forth a lot can even get dizzy. Closer up can be helped with reading glasses, but they don’t help farther out. I am not a fan off over powering correction and always push for lower rather than higher with contacts even if not 20/20.

EDIT: Not sure if below chart is accurate, but it should give you an idea of the conversion from glasses prescription which is what the butterfly thing measures to contacts prescription. Then you have to match what is closest available in the contacts and try them. Your visit should include rechecking vision with contacts.

My preference is an MD, but for routine things like glasses an optometrist is fine. I don’t think they are corrupt. The technology they use in glasses and contacts aren’t cheap. I’m glad I got lasik 20+ years ago.

I’m -9 with contacts and still feel like I can’t see.

Get an appointment with an Ophthalmologist. They’re a step up from an Optometrist

I think all.doctors are corrupt in some way. There are ZERO physicians that don't or haven't over billed insurance in some way, or done an unnecessary test, or scheduled an needed "follow-up "