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re: Do Americans Know What a Massive Ripoff American Life Really Is?

Posted on 9/28/21 at 3:22 pm to
Posted by grizzlylongcut
Member since Sep 2021
9457 posts
Posted on 9/28/21 at 3:22 pm to
Americans really fricked up by allowing too many Europeans in this nation after around 1945.

And too many third world shitholers from south of the border into this nation after around 1980.
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
68505 posts
Posted on 9/28/21 at 3:30 pm to
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is it solely because of a company being greedy or because somebody, somwhere decided we needed billions of dollar to fund gender research in Pakistan and tax the american taxpayer to fund it?
All of the above. I'm not saying greedy people haven't been around since the beginning of the nation but over the last 30 years it has really kicked into overdrive.
Posted by nitwit
Member since Oct 2007
12234 posts
Posted on 9/28/21 at 3:35 pm to
European migrants before 1945 were superior humans to those coming here afterwards?
And, of course, those coming thru the southern border were dark skinned people, so point one explains your position on point two...
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
27305 posts
Posted on 9/28/21 at 3:36 pm to
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How much do I pay for internet and TV in Europe? About thirty dollars, give or take. How much do I pay in America? $150. That’s five times as much. And what I get in America is way, way worse.
I see he didn’t mention the UK tv license.

Yes, you need a license in the UK to watch your tv. It costs about $210 per year.

And I’m looking online at Sky Satellite TV packages in London, and they aren’t any cheaper than what you get here with Dish or DirecTV.

My take is that guy is being extremely disingenuous.


Oh, and also, looking at their TV channels, it seems about half of them are American channels. How many UK channels do we get on our cable/satellite packages? Maybe, what.. 2? Maybe Sky News and BBC America? The British consume a bunch of American TV, yet this guy wants to act like European tv is superior.
This post was edited on 9/28/21 at 3:46 pm
Posted by TorchtheFlyingTiger
1st coast
Member since Jan 2008
2132 posts
Posted on 9/28/21 at 3:36 pm to
It is not cheaper to live same lifestyle in Europe. I've lived in Germany on/off for 9 of last 20 years. US has a significantly lower cost of living. Utilities , gas and VAT taxes on everything are higher. Luckily I dont pay their income tax. I do like my cheap prepaid cell for <$150 once annually that works anywhere in Europe and internet is cheaper but that's about it. Almost forgot they charge regular prices for food at amusement parks (but that's like saving 16¢ at a 4th of July cookout)
Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
49274 posts
Posted on 9/28/21 at 3:37 pm to
America has basically become an oligarch at this point, you have the corporations and ultra rich buying lobbyists and politicians through backroom deals, donations, among other tactics. The media also has become the biggest cheerleader for the new oligarchs, watch anytime some bill is proposed that would vastly benefit the middle class and poor. We get the same old argument, "Oh how can we afford this or oh this is socialism", you never hear this when massive bailouts are proposed or we invade a new country of course not.

Speaking of "socialism" let's talk about some actual socialism. Why is it that if people want everyone to have access to proper healthcare there's always this ridiculous take about how we'd basically be Venezuela or Cuba. But, when we spend trillions on wars Americans don't want or we use tax payer money to bail out companies that were doing shady shite that's not socialism at all when it's quite literally socialism for the rich.

And the media does this great little trick too, to distract Americans from all this shady shite. Get your average voter worked up about random bullshite like statues or mean tweets meanwhile the oligarchy just keeps on chugging along


TL:DR America is currently and has been run by an very wealthy few who love bailing each other out and using taxpayer money for their own interests and have used the media to distract the average American into thinking their fellow Americans are the true enemy because they vote dfferently
Posted by SaintsTiger
1,000,000 Posts
Member since Oct 2014
1120 posts
Posted on 9/28/21 at 3:43 pm to
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I do like my cheap prepaid cell for <$150 once annually that works anywhere in Europe


Mint Mobile has this. Well. I just paid $200 counting taxes for a year service of data and cell. Runs on the T-Mobile network.

ETA I have a referral link!
This post was edited on 9/28/21 at 3:44 pm
Posted by Devilsturn
Member since Aug 2020
253 posts
Posted on 9/28/21 at 3:51 pm to
Well at least I don’t pay 60% of my income in taxes and don’t have to spend 1MM on a 900sqft house….yet.
Posted by alphaandomega
Tuscaloosa
Member since Aug 2012
13538 posts
Posted on 9/28/21 at 3:52 pm to
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I’ve recently moved to the States


Then go back home. We dont want you.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
113947 posts
Posted on 9/28/21 at 3:59 pm to
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is it solely because of a company being greedy or because somebody, somwhere decided we needed billions of dollar to fund gender research in Pakistan and tax the american taxpayer to fund it?




Its because the USD is becoming worthless, which started in the 70s when it was no longer tied to the gold standard.

Between the recession in 08-09 and this pandemic, the US government has handed out money like its candy.

Banks flew into DC crying with their hands out because they gambled on something and lost and the government thought we shouldn't allow the banks to fail so the government just gave the banks $700B.. Which I thought was a lot.. Until the Pandemic came and $7 Trillion was approved to give out..

When that much was approved, the thing that surprised me the most was how okay people were with it. The government just decided to give out $7 trillion. But that's how things work in Washington. The politicians don't give a frick about the big picture as long as they are receiving their share of the pie.

In order to get it passed they need these people to get on board because they can influence so many of their peers to vote for it, but its going to cost.. So they have to put a bunch of bullshite in the bill in order to get this person on board.

Its all one big shite show.
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
28429 posts
Posted on 9/28/21 at 3:59 pm to
The best thing about Europe is the free healthcare and awesome public transportation and train system, but they pay out the arse in taxes for all that. I will say life is probably a bit better for the poorest of the poor in Europe, but besides that I don’t think that their quality of life is any better than ours (although a good train system and more reliable public transportation would be nice, but less practical with the size of the US). FWIW, I lived in France for a year and only made ~800 euros a month.
Posted by Shorter Yards
Here and There
Member since Jun 2020
369 posts
Posted on 9/28/21 at 3:59 pm to
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So, what you're saying is you really, really appreciate the BBC.


Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
28429 posts
Posted on 9/28/21 at 4:01 pm to
Also European TV kind of sucks but I do like their news better. Most of their good shows are American shows that are subtitled or dubbed. South Park dubbed in French is awesome
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
119144 posts
Posted on 9/28/21 at 4:02 pm to
Generally not wrong.


We have 5x the govt than we need to pay for, and many companies have at least 2x the number of employees they need to do their work.

All that costs taxpayers and consumers more than it should.
Posted by DomincDecoco
of no fixed abode
Member since Oct 2018
10875 posts
Posted on 9/28/21 at 4:04 pm to
I aint reading that bullshite...frick her

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Umair haque


Born to be wild

This post was edited on 9/28/21 at 4:07 pm
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
63008 posts
Posted on 9/28/21 at 4:06 pm to
What a hateful, vitriolic foreigner. No doubt he hated America before he even moved here. I wonder which city he lives in full of those terrible people.
Posted by dat yat
Chef Pass
Member since Jun 2011
4309 posts
Posted on 9/28/21 at 4:22 pm to
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They go into debt. Deeply into debt. So deep that the average American now dies underwater to the tune of about $60,000. They’ve spent a lifetime paying off debts that they can never fully make good on — precisely because the system is rigged against them.


This part is BS too. Average net worth here is $746K with the median net worth at $121K. Older Americans usually have much higher net worth. Only the very poor or young die in debt.
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
41187 posts
Posted on 9/28/21 at 4:25 pm to
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Let’s take utility bills. They’re astronomical in America compared to the rest of the rich world, and even much of the rest of the world period.


Compare what % of Americans have A/C in their homes vs. Europe and then the rest of the world.
Posted by nugget
Mostly Peaceful Poster
Member since Dec 2009
13815 posts
Posted on 9/28/21 at 4:31 pm to
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Yes, some of us realize it.


So you’re far left because you live a pathetic existence? Makes sense now
Posted by stelly1025
Lafayette
Member since May 2012
8511 posts
Posted on 9/28/21 at 4:33 pm to
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How much do I pay for internet and TV in Europe? About thirty dollars, give or take. How much do I pay in America? $150. 


My internet bill is 20 Euros ,but it is only DSL speeds. I live in the center of Nürnberg and that is all that is available where I live. Where high-speed internet is available you pay for it along with a mandatory 20 Euros a month per household for regular TV. Germany is really lacking there in many areas with high speed internet.

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Let’s take utility bills. They’re astronomical in America compared to the rest of the rich world, and even much of the rest of the world period. Heating, electricity, gas, water? These things can easily add up to $500 to $1000 dollars per month. That’s not even factoring in property taxes and maintenance costs and whatnot. Americans have no idea, but in Europe I’d pay maybe — maybe — half that, if even that much.


This is an outright lie... I can tell you for a fact that that heating, electricity, gas, water, maintenance, and taxes are significantly higher in Europe. My wife and I own 28 rental properties in Germany. This statement is full of shite.

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 I don’t get the wonderful and illuminating and sparkling stuff that European TV makes on a regular basis, from good coverage of global affairs to politics to economics to ground-breaking shows and movies. 


The media here is almost as bad as ours.


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How much does it cost to just…have a place to live? The average American rental is about $1200. That’s for an apartment. Again, that’s a particularly high figure. It doesn’t cost that much to rent in Europe. In France, the the average house rental costs less than that — it’s about 800 euros, or maybe $1000 dollars.


That depends on where you live and how much space you have. A woman my wife works with pays for a small 2 bedroom apartment in Munich 1600 Euros cold.


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The sad truth is that nobody can afford to live that way, at least not in a modern society. We know that because the average American doesn’t. They go into debt. Deeply into debt. So deep that the average American now dies underwater to the tune of about $60,000. They’ve spent a lifetime paying off debts that they can never fully make good on — precisely because the system is rigged against them.


The sad truth is that many Americans are too stupid to manage money and do not understand their economic reality. This guy who wrote this is an idiot and most people in the Western World who are poor it is because of shitty money management.
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