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re: Do Americans Know What a Massive Ripoff American Life Really Is?

Posted on 9/28/21 at 2:15 pm to
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
19251 posts
Posted on 9/28/21 at 2:15 pm to
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The sad truth is that nobody can afford to live that way, at least not in a modern society.

Yet, a couple hundred million people manage to afford it every day.
Posted by Shorter Yards
Here and There
Member since Jun 2020
369 posts
Posted on 9/28/21 at 2:16 pm to
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Yet, a couple hundred million people manage to afford it every day.



Yes they do.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 9/28/21 at 2:17 pm to
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The sad truth is that nobody can afford to live that way, at least not in a modern society.


Sweden limits mortgage loans to… 105 years

Posted by 3nOut
Central Texas, TX
Member since Jan 2013
28939 posts
Posted on 9/28/21 at 2:17 pm to
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Heating, electricity, gas, water? These things can easily add up to $500 to $1000 dollars per month


I survived the 100 days of 100 degrees in 2011 in Texas and never payed more than $500 for all those services combined in a single month.

Dude must have moved to Manhattan or San Francisco.
This post was edited on 9/28/21 at 2:18 pm
Posted by Shorter Yards
Here and There
Member since Jun 2020
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Posted on 9/28/21 at 2:18 pm to
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Sweden limits mortgage loans to… 105 years


Yikes!
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
8008 posts
Posted on 9/28/21 at 2:20 pm to
There is so much wrong in that article I don't even know where to begin.

The biggest things:

1. American median income is higher than virtually all European countries of any size (usually 20 - 40% higher), so demand pressure is going to be stronger on basics.

2. Even besides that, purchasing power adjusted, America is an even richer country than all but a handful of tiny European countries. That is, the data pretty clearly says that we make more money, have more take home and disposable income, and it doesn't cost as much more as it should to live here relative to our income levels.

3. His point about utilities is just straight up wrong. America has pretty cheap utilities relative to a lot of European countries (except France, thanks to their nuclear programs).

4. European countries do pay for all that shite even if they don't see it. Subsidies cost money.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72129 posts
Posted on 9/28/21 at 2:22 pm to
There is a degree of honesty here, buried within all the crap, but it is something that people choose themselves.

Living in the USA can be expensive, but is cheaper in a multitude of smaller, less populated areas.

People choose to spend an excess on TV, subscription services, etc. They aren’t necessities. They could turn them off.

People choose to be poor managers of their household expenses.

It is all based on choice.

Scruffy has lived overly comfortably in less expensive areas on the country with an income of $30k, and he was still able to save a significant amount of money and take international vacations.

Everything is a choice. Americans just feel they have to show off to others.
This post was edited on 9/28/21 at 2:23 pm
Posted by FreddieMac
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2010
21007 posts
Posted on 9/28/21 at 2:22 pm to
well I just watched a video of a 10 year old kid having to work 15 hour days as a street vendor making French fries to eat. I think i can deal with the realities of American life over being born in poverty with no mechanism of upward mobility.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
61289 posts
Posted on 9/28/21 at 2:22 pm to
He fails to mention the massive debt of pretty much every European country that has a "cheaper" standard of living. They even have negative interest rates. Americans literally pay for Europe to have a socialized government and economy.
This post was edited on 9/28/21 at 2:24 pm
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
113972 posts
Posted on 9/28/21 at 2:23 pm to
There is a lot of truth to it. Our economy depends on people spending money.

Every holiday (traditional and the new ones like the gays who have a whole month in the summer) is used to try to get you to spend money.

We are all so valuable to companies that our information is sold to companies who are trying to target customers.

Think about everything in life that is solely based around money. Travel ball has become a billion dollar industry and there are people out there who think its a must their kid plays travel ball. And who benefits from it? The shoe companies, bat companies, ball companies, equipment companies, the hotels that all of these teams stay in over the weekend, the fields where these tournaments are held, etc, etc and yet there is absolutely nothing that suggest that travel ball is beneficial to kids.

Disney world. Yes, kids want to go see their favorite characters and there are cool rides and cool things to do and see, but not without trying to squeeze every cent possible out of you. I have only been once and it was when I was a kid and I remember how expensive things were. I just remember being in a shop with my dad and him looking at the prices and saying "$30 for this? People buy it, their kid plays with it a few times and then they forget about it. You can buy a stuffed animal for less than a dollar".

Just about everything is about trying to get you to spend as much money as possible.
Posted by Shorter Yards
Here and There
Member since Jun 2020
369 posts
Posted on 9/28/21 at 2:24 pm to
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There is a degree of honesty here, buried within all the crap, but it is something that people choose themselves.

Living in the USA can be expensive, but is cheaper in a multitude of smaller, less populated areas.

People choose to spend an excess on TV, subscription services, etc. They aren’t necessities. They could turn them off.

People choose to be poor managers of their household expenses.

It is all based on choice.

Scruffy has lived overly comfortably in less expensive areas on the country with an income of $30k, and he was still able to save a significant amount of money and take international vacations.

Everything is a choice. Americans just feel they have to show off to others.


Yeah, I also think it's about "keeping up with the Jones's". It's a shame people don't realize that others really don't care.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 9/28/21 at 2:25 pm to
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4. European countries do pay for all that shite even if they don't see it. Subsidies cost money.




Most utilities here are also heavily subsidized.
Posted by Morgan56
Member since Jan 2006
1162 posts
Posted on 9/28/21 at 2:26 pm to
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How much do I pay for internet and TV in Europe? About thirty dollars, give or take. How much do I pay in America? $150.
If you are paying that much for internet, you apparently can't find better deals for yourself. Maybe this reflects more on personal choices.
Posted by FluffyBunnyFeet
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2014
2375 posts
Posted on 9/28/21 at 2:27 pm to
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angry, cruel, and selfish

So it's pretty clear he lives in a city surrounded by libs and leftists. That isn't America pal.
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
8008 posts
Posted on 9/28/21 at 2:27 pm to
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quote:
4. European countries do pay for all that shite even if they don't see it. Subsidies cost money.



Most utilities here are also heavily subsidized.


Not anything close to depth or breadth of subsidies as in Europe.
Posted by DestrehanTiger
Houston, TX by way of Louisiana
Member since Nov 2005
12470 posts
Posted on 9/28/21 at 2:27 pm to
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Our economy depends on people spending money.


Every economy is based on people spending money.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422689 posts
Posted on 9/28/21 at 2:28 pm to
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There is a degree of honesty here, buried within all the crap, but it is something that people choose themselves.

You can go to almost any "this is what changed when I moved to Europe" blog or youtube video and the same meme develops. That meme is that people pretend like some relatively standard things are completely and utterly excessive, like...living space, choices at grocery stores, restaurants that are good and not incredibly expensive, etc.

The biggest difference is housing. They will legit argue their closet-sized rental is just as good as a home in the US. They will also always argue expense in terms of the peasant's life (remember Europe is still very class conscious). You don't hear about these people who "downsized and love it!" talk about things like, buying a home...or...investing for their retirement.
Posted by arcalades
USA
Member since Feb 2014
19276 posts
Posted on 9/28/21 at 2:28 pm to
freedom aint cheap, but I will concede there is a legitimate point in there, just a bad angle.
Posted by 3nOut
Central Texas, TX
Member since Jan 2013
28939 posts
Posted on 9/28/21 at 2:28 pm to
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If you are paying that much for internet, you apparently can't find better deals for yourself. Maybe this reflects more on personal choices.




Sounds like somebody who hasn’t been able to cancel their directtv subscription after multiple tries.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260877 posts
Posted on 9/28/21 at 2:29 pm to
If you live in a large metro, yes.

Geographically most of the US is very affordable.
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