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Detroit - 19 yr old who shot mall gunman sentenced

Posted on 9/10/26 at 8:25 am
Posted by Shexter
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Posted on 9/10/26 at 8:25 am
TL/DR

Cameron Watkins shoots two people in the mall and continues to shoot into crowd.

19 year old shoots Cameron and ends the situation.

Judge reprimands 19 year old instead of calling him a hero.



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The judge admonished Long for carrying the gun and told him he has to think before he acts.

"Fortunately, you weren't injured, but nonetheless, you had a gun there in the first place, which was poor judgment," he said. "And what do you need a gun for protection in a mall, in the first place?

"Nonetheless, I think this agreement is in the best interest of justice."

Long's attorney said that the shooting was a tragic incident and that he conceded to an error in judgment of carrying a concealed weapon.






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The backstory:
The shooting happened July 3 at Fairlane Town Center in Dearborn. The chaotic scene played out at the mall, leaving three shot, and two dead after a fight escalated and police were called at 1:25 p.m.

The man that Long shot and killed, Cameron Watkins, had gotten into a fight with, and then shot and killed Keonte Seaborn.

Watkins then shot another person during a struggle, and continued to shoot his gun recklessly in the mall before Long acted.

Long fatally shot Watkins, ending the threat, but did not have a concealed carry permit for his weapon.


https://www.fox2detroit.com/news/fairlane-shooting-19-year-old-who-acted-self-defense-killing-mall-gunman-sentenced



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Martinez Long was sentenced to two years of probation for carrying a concealed weapon.
This post was edited on 9/10/26 at 9:02 am
Posted by nes2010
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 9/10/26 at 8:28 am to
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Your punishment for having a knife when they searched you would be very different from the thief's. For him to have a knife was mere misbehavior, tradition, he didn't know any better. But for you to have one was 'terrorism.
Posted by Gee Grenouille
Member since Jul 2018
8589 posts
Posted on 9/10/26 at 8:33 am to
Sucks these are probably state charges. Trump would pardon this asap. Stretchin Gretchen needs to step up here.
Posted by BU Bear In BR
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Posted on 9/10/26 at 8:34 am to
quote:

And what do you need a gun for protection in a mall, in the first place?


quote:

The man that Long shot and killed, Cameron Watkins, had gotten into a fight with, and then shot and killed Keonte Seaborn.

Watkins then shot another person during a struggle, and continued to shoot his gun recklessly in the mall before Long acted.


Ride the short bus to school judge?
Posted by Lonnie Utah
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Member since Jul 2012
35578 posts
Posted on 9/10/26 at 8:34 am to
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Judge reprimands 19 year old instead of calling him a hero.



I get it and generally agree, however, the legal age to conceal carry in Michigan in 21. You can open carry at 18, but it doesn't look like that was what he was doing.

He's a hero for ending it, but broke the law in the process (which some would argue, possibly including me, that the action he took was the morally correct path).
This post was edited on 9/10/26 at 8:36 am
Posted by Stealth Matrix
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Posted on 9/10/26 at 8:35 am to
quote:

 "And what do you need a gun for protection in a mall, in the first place?"

I hope that was a rhetorical.
Posted by NFLSU
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Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 9/10/26 at 8:36 am to
Why anyone would live above the Mason-Dixon is beyond me.
Posted by Lonnie Utah
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Member since Jul 2012
35578 posts
Posted on 9/10/26 at 8:36 am to
quote:

quote: "And what do you need a gun for protection in a mall, in the first place?"

I hope that was a rhetorical


Right? I mean has the judge not seen the average Mall cop?
Posted by Bard
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Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 9/10/26 at 8:39 am to
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As part of his probation, Long must complete cognitive behavioral therapy, not possess any guns or ammunition in that period and take handgun safety classes offered by the court.

The Oak Park man is working towards getting his GED and had no prior criminal record. The judge acknowledged the right to self-defense in the case.


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Under the Holmes Youthful Trainee Act, if Long completes the probation period without incident, his record will be expunged.


It's a little heavy-handed but I think the deal was about as good as he was going to get. He did the right thing (saving the lives of others), but did it the wrong way (concealed carry without a license in an area where that's required by law).

The judgement means no jail time (it could have been up to 5 years), just probation and (importantly) requires him to take a course which can potentially help him avoid making the same mistake in the future (by showing him the path to getting a CCL).
Posted by Snipe
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Posted on 9/10/26 at 8:42 am to
No good deed goes unpunished.
Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 9/10/26 at 8:47 am to
This is really more on the DA for bringing charges.
Posted by TygerTyger
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Posted on 9/10/26 at 8:54 am to
Detroit is a shithole.
Posted by SuperSaint
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Posted on 9/10/26 at 8:54 am to
quote:

Why anyone would live above the Mason-Dixon is beyond me.
American by birth, Southern by the grace of God
Posted by Keys Open Doors
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Posted on 9/10/26 at 8:58 am to
Interesting that the original post doesn’t mention that the punishment was 2 years probation. It’s in the article, of course, but not in the post.
Posted by JellyRoll
Member since Apr 2024
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Posted on 9/10/26 at 9:06 am to
quote:

"And what do you need a gun for protection in a mall, in the first place?




quote:

Cameron Watkins shoots two people in the mall and continues to shoot into crowd.


Posted by faraway
Member since Nov 2022
4286 posts
Posted on 9/10/26 at 9:07 am to
quote:

the legal age to conceal carry in Michigan in 21. You can open carry at 18, but it doesn't look like that was what he was doing.

He's a hero for ending it, but broke the law in the process (which some would argue, possibly including me, that the action he took was the morally correct path).
what in the 2nd Amendment differentiates between 18 and 21 year olds?
Posted by LSU Grad Alabama Fan
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Member since Nov 2019
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Posted on 9/10/26 at 9:08 am to
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Detroit - 19 yr old who shot mall gunman sentenced


Click bait. You purposely left off the word probation in the subject line.
Posted by salty1
Member since Jun 2015
5253 posts
Posted on 9/10/26 at 9:15 am to
18 (17 with parent’s signature) - You can join the Corps and head over seas to fight and kill for your country. You can lay down your life for your brothers and country. You can get married and start a family. You can vote. But….you can’t drink a beer and you can’t buy a pistol. You can’t obtain a CCL. Make it make sense!
Posted by Bigdawgb
Member since Oct 2023
4683 posts
Posted on 9/10/26 at 9:38 am to
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but did not have a concealed carry permit for his weapon.


And there it is. The guy is a hero, and the judge should STFU about "why do you need a gun in the mall" (does the mall cop have a gun?), but the ruling does make sense
Posted by UFFan
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Member since Aug 2016
4047 posts
Posted on 9/10/26 at 9:39 am to
The judge needs to be sentenced to jail time. As does the prosecutor.
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