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Posted on 10/21/24 at 1:02 pm to RLDSC FAN
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a 30-year-old Black man who worked as a Michael Jackson impersonator.
at that description of who Neely was
Posted on 10/21/24 at 1:05 pm to HenryParsons
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Neely had an extensive criminal record, including 42 arrests on charges including petty larceny, jumping subway turnstiles, theft, and three unprovoked assaults on women in the subway between 2019 and 2021.
Unfortunately there is a better than decent chance this is not allowed into evidence or to be talked about
Posted on 10/21/24 at 1:06 pm to Decatur
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I hope they have more of a defense than this.
You lie.
We all know you've made up your mind.
Posted on 10/21/24 at 1:09 pm to RogerTheShrubber
I really don’t much about the facts of the case.
How does this defendant present his defense?
How does this defendant present his defense?
Posted on 10/21/24 at 1:13 pm to Decatur
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I really don’t much about the facts of the case.
How does this defendant present his defense?
Multiple eyewitnesses from the train testified to being scared of the homeless guy, and felt that Penny was defending them/himself in a violent situation. The homeless guy had drugs in his system and had injured people on the train before (probably won't be allowed at trial).
Posted on 10/21/24 at 1:22 pm to Decatur
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How does this defendant present his defense?
At the root, it will be a defense of others argument. IIRC NY is a step into the shoes state with an obligation to retreat. Penny will have to show the person(s) he was defending had the right to use the level of force he used since he steps into their shoes legally. I said at the time of the incident the case will revolve around the testimony of the witnesses regarding the events that occurred prior to the video starting. The defense needs to establish the right to self-defense and the level of force the other individuals could use then it transfers to Penny when he intervened. States that put you in the shoes of the one you seek to defend are trickier than the ones that allow you to decide just with the facts you are confronted with.
Posted on 10/21/24 at 2:00 pm to TheRouxGuru
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Why on earth do they do this shite? Can someone please explain to me, why is it when talking about race, white isn’t capitalized, but black is?
Consider where these “journalists” went to school and were indoctrinated with the perspective that all white men are evil oppressors and all black men are down trodden victims, and then add in the clicks generated by feeding the false narrative.
Posted on 10/21/24 at 2:03 pm to Ingeniero
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He'd walk
to dinner and drinks with me after trial.
Posted on 10/21/24 at 2:04 pm to RLDSC FAN
This will be to blame for the riots when he's found innocent when it will really be because of the election.
Posted on 10/21/24 at 2:07 pm to Fun Bunch
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Unfortunately there is a better than decent chance this is not allowed into evidence or to be talked about
And rightly so. Its not like Penny would have known that before jumping on him.
Just the basic facts of this case are enough to get all charges against Penny (rightfully) dismissed almost anywhere else. The fact that its in a far left state is the only reason there is even a debate here. Neely was acting like a psycho.
Posted on 10/21/24 at 2:16 pm to HenryParsons
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three unprovoked assaults on women in the subway between 2019 and 2021.
Believe all women….except when it doesn’t suit your message
Posted on 10/21/24 at 2:18 pm to idlewatcher
quote:The state is not your friend and it never will be.
Lately I've been pro-public vs pro-cop. And I found myself always defending cops until recently.
You see how the cops act in Portland and Seattle and NYC. It definitely changed my view of them.
The average police officer is, en masse, going to do what his politician and administrative bureaucrat tells him to do in order to get his check and go home, and there's absolutely zero historical reference to prove otherwise.
Among example after example, I watched officers of the state violate constitutional rights during covid because forcefully unemployed people on an empty beach dared to freely travel and dip their feet in the water.
The police state is. Not. Your. Friend.
Posted on 10/22/24 at 12:00 am to mudshuvl05
Radio in NY talking about a plea deal just now.
Posted on 10/22/24 at 1:02 am to Eurocat
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Radio in NY talking about a plea deal just now.
Yeah, I’d imagine he doesn’t want to chance a trial verdict by 12 random New Yorkers. Prosecution doesn’t either. As much as most here hate them, they don’t want him being convicted of voluntary manslaughter, though they had to charge him with that if the grand jury came back with that true bill. I bet he pleads to something with time served plus some probation, and everybody tires to move on with their lives as quickly as possible with no more scrutiny on this as there already is.
Posted on 10/22/24 at 6:17 am to Eurocat
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Radio in NY talking about a plea deal just now.
Sadly, that's most likely his best and smartest course of action considering the trial is in NYC.
Posted on 10/22/24 at 6:32 am to RLDSC FAN
Daniel Penny, who removed a worthless shite stain from the gene pool, is charged in the death of Jordan Neely.
Posted on 10/22/24 at 6:41 am to Porter Osborne Jr
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Gonna be a fun ride. I'm not sure how they could get homicide from this if he didn't intend to kill the victim.
Because intent to kill isn’t a required criteria for homicide and the ME doesn’t determine whether a homicide is justified or not, just that the manner of death meets the criteria for homicide. Plenty of homicides result in no charges.
Posted on 10/22/24 at 7:20 am to RLDSC FAN
You know it’s a grift when Neely’s family secured their own attorneys for this stuff.
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