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re: Children Wearing Masks All Day, the Unintended Consequences
Posted on 6/16/21 at 10:32 am to High C
Posted on 6/16/21 at 10:32 am to High C
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It was never about science, always about politics and control.
Well the counter to the OP would be that the lab reports do not list any type of quantitative amount for any of the positive results, which renders them mostly meaningless, as we are exposed to all kinds of bacteria daily that our bodies fight off quite easily
I absolutely despise the idea of making kids wear masks at any point for any reason, but the OP is mostly fear porn
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Posted on 6/16/21 at 10:52 am to dkreller
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You be surprised how ineffective some soap is and what is considered normal flora.
What did you find to be the most effective? I also assume the effectiveness of the soap can be increased by making the water hotter.
Posted on 6/16/21 at 10:53 am to Salmon
It’s not mostly. It completely. Except the part that says no viruses.
This post was edited on 6/16/21 at 10:54 am
Posted on 6/16/21 at 10:54 am to SlowFlowPro
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The face masks studied were new or freshly-laundered before wearing and had been worn for 5 to 8 hours, most during in-person schooling by children aged 6 through 11.
Sounds like were either brand new or freshly laundered and the masks were worn just one time prior to being submitted for the study.
Posted on 6/16/21 at 10:57 am to BluegrassBelle
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My counter would be how many of the kids in this study ended up diagnosed with one of these diseases in their mask wearing period? If it is dangerous, why are we not seeing significant spikes among in-person students wearing masks of sepsis, TB, pneumonia, Legionnaire’s, etc?
My follow-up would be is this more or less dangerous pathogens the kids are exposed to now that their noses & mouths are covered and they can't keep touching those areas of their faces...assuming proper mask wearing for the entire duration.
Posted on 6/16/21 at 10:58 am to TygerTyger
wait a minute? The libs never factored "the science" into any of this?
Posted on 6/16/21 at 11:01 am to Weekend Warrior79
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My follow-up would be is this more or less dangerous pathogens the kids are exposed to now that their noses & mouths are covered and they can't keep touching those areas of their faces...assuming proper mask wearing for the entire duration.
I would also question the variable of the mask wearing itself. Was it monitored? Were they worn properly? If these parents simply just brought in the masks to be tested how do we know the parents didn’t tell the kids to rub them on the ground or the toilet or whatever? That seems to be a huge variable here.
ETA: And what about sample size? It was six masks from one group of parents working together. What do results look like at 100, 1,000 among a variety of populations?
This post was edited on 6/16/21 at 11:03 am
Posted on 6/16/21 at 12:01 pm to BluegrassBelle
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I feel like this study is similar to the ones we do in high school bio classes where we swab keyboards and cell phone faces to see what bacteria is there.
The difference being that kids, teachers, and administrators largely have no idea how to properly don, doff, and wear a mask. Kids improperly take these masks on and off dozens of times a day, likely without washing their hands. That increases direct contact with all of those pathogens found on the masks. If I handed you a towel I'd been carrying around all day, laying it down, picking it up, wiping stuff, etc. and told you to wipe your face with it every few minutes, you'd surely refuse.
If Covid was a virus with a much higher mortality rate, it would be clear how useless our efforts at protecting school children were. Fortunately, it is virus with a high survival rate and largely didn't seriously infect kids.
Posted on 6/16/21 at 12:06 pm to FredBear
What exactly do democrats have to gain by children getting avoidable respiratory illnesses?
Or is your compulsion to villianize your political opponents just too strong?
Or is your compulsion to villianize your political opponents just too strong?
Posted on 6/16/21 at 12:18 pm to BluegrassBelle
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this is probably more an issue of parents not washing their kid's masks
Or using single use masks repeatedly.
Both of y’all are dead wrong. Read the article. The masks were all freshly laundered or brand new before the single time wearing them.
Posted on 6/16/21 at 12:22 pm to TygerTyger
any parent who forces their children to wear a mask in the south during the summer months needs to have CPS called on them.
309. 309. 309 total children (<18) in the United States have died of COVID-19 since the pandemic began til June. And of those 309, those poor children overwhelmingly had pre-existing conditions (cancer, asthma, heart complications, etc). that metric is on the CDC's website. go find it yourself.
309. 309. 309 total children (<18) in the United States have died of COVID-19 since the pandemic began til June. And of those 309, those poor children overwhelmingly had pre-existing conditions (cancer, asthma, heart complications, etc). that metric is on the CDC's website. go find it yourself.
This post was edited on 6/16/21 at 12:29 pm
Posted on 6/16/21 at 12:29 pm to dkreller
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I wonder if all of the above are ingested on a regular basis but at such small quantity that our immune systems squash them with the quickness.
If they had done a similar analysis of the food prep surfaces in their homes they would have been even more mortified. We live in a world where we are enveloped by pathogens every day.
Posted on 6/16/21 at 12:37 pm to BluegrassBelle
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I would also question the variable of the mask wearing itself. Was it monitored? Were they worn properly? If these parents simply just brought in the masks to be tested how do we know the parents didn’t tell the kids to rub them on the ground or the toilet or whatever? That seems to be a huge variable here.
ETA: And what about sample size? It was six masks from one group of parents working together. What do results look like at 100, 1,000 among a variety of populations?
If only someone in government would apply this sort of logic/rationality towards mask mandates, then we wouldn't be worrying about any of this. Masks are pointless. China flu is mostly harmless.
This post was edited on 6/16/21 at 12:38 pm
Posted on 6/16/21 at 12:59 pm to TygerTyger
Masks should only be used on kids with ringworm, herp or foot and mouth disease.
Posted on 6/16/21 at 1:05 pm to BugAC
stop it with your logic, common sense, and thinking for yourself. never question what the media and their tv doctors, who are quick to blanket advise you on what precautions to take without knowing your personal medical history.
This post was edited on 6/16/21 at 1:09 pm
Posted on 6/16/21 at 1:05 pm to BluegrassBelle
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My counter would be how many of the kids in this study ended up diagnosed with one of these diseases in their mask wearing period? If it is dangerous, why are we not seeing significant spikes among in-person students wearing masks of sepsis, TB, pneumonia, Legionnaire’s, etc?
Can they use a PCR test with cycling so high the results are meaningless outside of a lab setting?
Posted on 6/16/21 at 1:11 pm to phunkatron
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What exactly do democrats have to gain by children getting avoidable respiratory illnesses?
The Presidency?
Posted on 6/16/21 at 1:14 pm to Obtuse1
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I wonder if all of the above are ingested on a regular basis but at such small quantity that our immune systems squash them with the quickness.
If they had done a similar analysis of the food prep surfaces in their homes they would have been even more mortified. We live in a world where we are enveloped by pathogens every day.
Exactly.
People are going to see these things and freak out, but they are EVERYWHERE.
Posted on 6/16/21 at 1:25 pm to SlowFlowPro
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this is probably more an issue of parents not washing their kid's masks
Between classes?
If doesn’t seem feasible to me.
ETA - I’m not overly concerned with anything mentioned, but frick masks.
This post was edited on 6/16/21 at 1:28 pm
Posted on 6/16/21 at 1:38 pm to Centinel
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You don't wear a mask for your safety, you wear one for mine.
/Karen
That makes the decision even easier.
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