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re: Children Wearing Masks All Day, the Unintended Consequences
Posted on 6/16/21 at 1:40 pm to TygerTyger
Posted on 6/16/21 at 1:40 pm to TygerTyger
Wow, how NOT shocking!
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Posted on 6/16/21 at 1:43 pm to High C
Care to elaborate on your thesis?
If I'm understanding this highly intellectual train of thought, Democrats are intentionally exposing children to bacterial pathogens on masks because they hate babies and will win the presidency because of it.
fricking brilliant
If I'm understanding this highly intellectual train of thought, Democrats are intentionally exposing children to bacterial pathogens on masks because they hate babies and will win the presidency because of it.
fricking brilliant
Posted on 6/16/21 at 1:48 pm to TygerTyger
Grossssssss. That was freshly laundered too. Imagine the one in the deep dark bottom of my purse that was worn basically to get my nails done.
Posted on 6/16/21 at 1:49 pm to tiger91
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Grossssssss. That was freshly laundered too. Imagine the one in the deep dark bottom of my purse that was worn basically to get my nails done
imagine what the typical pillow has growing on it
that's right, your pillow you sleep on every night is a fricking disgusting laboratory of bacteria
Posted on 6/16/21 at 1:51 pm to tiger91
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Grossssssss. That was freshly laundered too. Imagine the one in the deep dark bottom of my purse that was worn basically to get my nails done.
Are there really so many people who fail to realize that the world is not some sort of surgically sterile environment. There's viral/bacterial shite (sometimes literally) EVERYWHERE. It's not even really a bad thing, it's just the fricking planet we live on.
Posted on 6/16/21 at 1:53 pm to Weekend Warrior79
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this is probably more an issue of parents not washing their kid's masks
Had the same thoughts/skepticism, but they did state this in OP's post.
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The face masks studied were new or freshly-laundered before wearing and had been worn for 5 to 8 hours,
So, sounds like the masks were washed or new; then the kids wore them for an extended period, then it was sent to the lab. So, the issue of wearing them for a week straight then testing would not be the issue here.
But wouldn't it seem that the masks worked in prevented some particles to get into the kids respiratory system or whatever?
An inference that those various particles have made contact with the child in absence of a mask would be reasonable. The masks didn't just grow that shite themselves.
Moral of the story would appear to be to wash masks / change out single use masks
Posted on 6/16/21 at 1:54 pm to TygerTyger
Are we taking the correct conclusions away from this “study” (quotation marks applied because this is a terrible experimental framework, but we’ll let that slide for the time being)
If they found all of these pathogens on the kids’ masks at the end of the day, then would it be fair to say that the mask prevented those pathogens from entering the kids’ bodies?
I mean, these bacteria are coming from somewhere and going somewhere. If they come from another person and end up on the kid’s mask, then it’s not going into the respiratory system at the same rate that it would without the mask (ie, the mask is catching some of it). Or if it’s coming from the kid wearing the mask, it would be going out into the surrounding air where it could infect others. But if the mask catches it, it doesn’t reach that wider circulation.
Seems like these results could be describing a dynamic where the mask is doing exactly what you want it to.
Disclaimer: I’m fervently anti mask-mandating. I just don’t know if the board is processing these results the optimal way. I’d support a better study framework to actually figure out the extent of masks being pathogen blockers vs being pathogen growers. But we can’t take this as evidence that masks are inherently unsafe.
If they found all of these pathogens on the kids’ masks at the end of the day, then would it be fair to say that the mask prevented those pathogens from entering the kids’ bodies?
I mean, these bacteria are coming from somewhere and going somewhere. If they come from another person and end up on the kid’s mask, then it’s not going into the respiratory system at the same rate that it would without the mask (ie, the mask is catching some of it). Or if it’s coming from the kid wearing the mask, it would be going out into the surrounding air where it could infect others. But if the mask catches it, it doesn’t reach that wider circulation.
Seems like these results could be describing a dynamic where the mask is doing exactly what you want it to.
Disclaimer: I’m fervently anti mask-mandating. I just don’t know if the board is processing these results the optimal way. I’d support a better study framework to actually figure out the extent of masks being pathogen blockers vs being pathogen growers. But we can’t take this as evidence that masks are inherently unsafe.
This post was edited on 6/16/21 at 2:00 pm
Posted on 6/16/21 at 1:55 pm to phunkatron
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Care to elaborate on your thesis?
Sure, but it’s not at all as blatantly specific as you portray it. Everything from COVID to the actual election fraud was used by the MSM and Democrats to influence the outcome of the 2020 election.
Go ahead and call that a crazy conspiracy theory, then look at how many other “crazy conspiracy theories” from last year are turning out to be real (Wuhan lab creation of COVID, masks as tools of control, overreaching shutdowns and what they did to the economy).
Posted on 6/16/21 at 2:01 pm to High C
Don't assume malice when stupidity will do
Posted on 6/16/21 at 2:01 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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Are there really so many people who fail to realize that the world is not some sort of surgically sterile environment. There's viral/bacterial shite (sometimes literally) EVERYWHERE. It's not even really a bad thing, it's just the fricking planet we live on.
If we were able to flip a switch and only see potentially hazardous pathogens we would see an amazingly similar view of the world. They pretty much blanket everything. The number on or skin and inside our body at any given moment would allow us to make out the form of other people very easily. Without proper context the article means nothing and a lot of people don't even have a clue about the context.
Posted on 6/16/21 at 2:07 pm to phunkatron
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Don't assume malice when stupidity will do
I’m not trying to convince you. You seem perfectly capable of thinking for yourself, as am I.
Posted on 6/16/21 at 11:29 pm to Weekend Warrior79
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What did you find to be the most effective?
That was over 20 years ago and prior to frying my brain in organic chemistry. I have no idea which soap was most effective.
Posted on 6/16/21 at 11:40 pm to SlowFlowPro
I take it reading comprehension isn’t your thing?
Posted on 6/16/21 at 11:41 pm to dkreller
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I did an experiment in college where we washed our hands with various types of soap and then swabbed and cultured.
You be surprised how ineffective some soap is and what is considered normal flora.
So you're saying even washing masks doesn't work. That makes them more beneficial?
Posted on 6/16/21 at 11:43 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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Are there really so many people who fail to realize that the world is not some sort of surgically sterile environment. There's viral/bacterial shite (sometimes literally) EVERYWHERE. It's not even really a bad thing, it's just the fricking planet we live on.
So we only wear a mask for the one then?
Posted on 6/16/21 at 11:47 pm to GRTiger
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So you're saying even washing masks doesn't work. That makes them more beneficial?
If you clean it in an autoclave, sure.
If you wash it with your dirty undies, prob not.
Posted on 6/17/21 at 1:56 am to SlowFlowPro
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this is probably more an issue of parents not washing their kid's masks
You're supposed to be an attorney?
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