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re: CBS News: For some electric vehicle owners, recharging now more costly than filling up
Posted on 2/13/23 at 1:38 pm to fareplay
Posted on 2/13/23 at 1:38 pm to fareplay
quote:No Henry Ford is coming for you. This is all about undoing what Henry Ford did.
I bet the first car was also more expensive to run than a horse.
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Posted on 2/13/23 at 1:39 pm to SPEEDY
Wowwwww who would’ve imagined this would be a consequence of these Mickey Mouse bullshite electric cars?
Posted on 2/13/23 at 1:39 pm to Oilfieldbiology
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What if it’s only marginally cheaper though? Does it still make financial sense?
It's really impossible to answer for everyone but yes, in alot of instances it can still make financial sense if just comparing fuel savings is marginally cheaper.
Posted on 2/13/23 at 1:42 pm to fareplay
quote:
I bet the first car was also more expensive to run than a horse
Posted on 2/13/23 at 1:43 pm to SPEEDY
I believe electric cars are a future. I just think fuel cell electric makes so much more sense than battery electric.
You can recharge/refill a hydrogen car in 5 minutes.
You can recharge/refill a hydrogen car in 5 minutes.
Posted on 2/13/23 at 1:44 pm to Cosmo
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get back to me when our grid is 90% nuclear
Not possible
Posted on 2/13/23 at 1:44 pm to Powerman
I love when factual posts are heavily downvoted. Because idiots would rather downvote and run than rebut.
Posted on 2/13/23 at 1:49 pm to SPEEDY
Schaudenfreud, err something.
Posted on 2/13/23 at 1:49 pm to SPEEDY
Wait... so increasing Demand for something without also increasing Supply makes Price go up???
Well butter my biscuit. I am completely shocked. Shocked, I tell you.
Well butter my biscuit. I am completely shocked. Shocked, I tell you.
Posted on 2/13/23 at 1:53 pm to SPEEDY
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It's now 50% more expensive than fueling it with gas
Posted on 2/13/23 at 1:55 pm to SPEEDY
I’m not an EV proponent, but I heard the opposite story from an Uber driver a couple weeks ago. He’s spending less than $10 per recharge.
Posted on 2/13/23 at 1:56 pm to billjamin
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Not possible
Because of government policy. Correct.
Posted on 2/13/23 at 1:57 pm to TheHarahanian
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I’m not an EV proponent, but I heard the opposite story from an Uber driver a couple weeks ago. He’s spending less than $10 per recharge.
Thats because this is a very isolated story that exists on the extremes. And the math only works out to support the headline when you use an inefficient hybrid, electrical prices with no context or mention of TOU, etc. It costs $8 every 10 days to charge my wife's model 3. Thats up from about $7 a few months ago.
Posted on 2/13/23 at 1:59 pm to fareplay
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I bet the first car was also more expensive to run than a horse.
true, but it also was not subsidized by horse owners taxes and the government did not go out and build gas stations with horse owners tax money.
No one threatened to make horse illegal by a certain arbitrary date, and no one blamed horses for the end of the world, or tried to force them to get rid of their horse.
Posted on 2/13/23 at 2:01 pm to Oilfieldbiology
MuH iCe
Posted on 2/13/23 at 2:02 pm to Cosmo
quote:False.
Because of government policy. Correct.
It's not possible for two reasons.
1- Because previous to the IRA PTC (probably the only thing we should thank Biden for) nuclear had a hard time attracting investors because of the ludicrous pre-development litigations cost by NIMBYs. The IRA should change the economics enough to bring investors with the pockets to put up a fight to the table an keep them there. We'll see what the fed guidance says when it's released soon.
2- Because nuclear supplies base load capacity and demands fluctuates more that 10% every day. You can't spin a reactor up and down to keep up with that. 50% is the number you're looking for. Although thats still hyper centralization and comes with its own pitfalls.
Posted on 2/13/23 at 2:06 pm to SPEEDY
Plus replacing the batteries......smart move.
Posted on 2/13/23 at 2:10 pm to fareplay
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I bet the first car was also more expensive to run than a horse.
They just invented electricity? Nah. Electricity prices aren’t getting significantly cheaper for a very long time
Posted on 2/13/23 at 2:14 pm to ninthward
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lol where does electricity come from? derrrrrrrr
It comes from the wall!
Posted on 2/13/23 at 2:16 pm to SPEEDY
My family's two-car strategy (EV daily commuter, ICE road trips) remains undefeated.
Our electricity plan offers a "free" rate off-peak from midnight to 3. Pretty good deal so far.
Our electricity plan offers a "free" rate off-peak from midnight to 3. Pretty good deal so far.
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