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re: CBS News: For some electric vehicle owners, recharging now more costly than filling up
Posted on 2/13/23 at 6:35 pm to fareplay
Posted on 2/13/23 at 6:35 pm to fareplay
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I bet the first car was also more expensive to run than a horse.
Bet the government didn't threaten folks or offer subsidies to sell Model Ts.
If it's a good idea, folks will buy. If it's a bad product then persuasion and arm twisting becomes necessary.
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Posted on 2/13/23 at 6:37 pm to billjamin
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utility inflation.
In the United States any utility inflation is basically stealing. We literally burn off excess natural gas because we have too much of it.
Also, putting solar panels on your house in sunny California is A LOT different than putting them up in Delaware
Posted on 2/13/23 at 6:38 pm to LSUfan4444
This post was edited on 2/18/23 at 8:44 am
Posted on 2/13/23 at 6:41 pm to lsunatchamp
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In the United States any utility inflation is basically stealing. We literally burn off excess natural gas because we have too much of it.
I'm with you. But PUC's are a bitch.
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Also, putting solar panels on your house in sunny California is A LOT different than putting them up in Delaware
Maybe, maybe not. You'd be surprised how easily solar still moneys out up there. I reviewed a solar fleet a few months ago that had thousands of customers up there doing great.
Posted on 2/13/23 at 6:43 pm to billjamin
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Maybe, maybe not. You'd be surprised how easily solar still moneys out up there. I reviewed a solar fleet a few months ago that had thousands of customers up there doing great.
Just ask Germany, who for some reason thought solar was great for them even though they get less than 8 hours of sunlight during winter. Now since Norstream got cut they are back to using coal for power
Posted on 2/13/23 at 6:52 pm to lsunatchamp
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Just ask Germany, who for some reason thought solar was great for them even though they get less than 8 hours of sunlight during winter. Now since Norstream got cut they are back to using coal for power
residential and C&I solar is seeing a monstrous demand spike right now because of gas prices. And I'm not sure what you're getting at with 8 hours of sunlight. I'm more than happy to have the "how sun hours and PV work together" conversation.This post was edited on 2/13/23 at 6:53 pm
Posted on 2/13/23 at 6:57 pm to Warfox
quote:And that will be a good thing. Ramping production up and down every day is costly. More level production is ideal.
If we reach anywhere near 100% fleet EV there really will no longer be off-peak hours.
Posted on 2/13/23 at 7:01 pm to lsunatchamp
quote:No it's not.
That's a lie.
quote:Or the more likely possibility that you are just dumb.
Either you are lying or just don't have any clue what you are talking about.
quote:Depends on the weather, but yeah typically consumption reaches its peak when people get home from work.
Peak times are in the winter after the sun goes down for any electric grid.
quote:No, people plug in their EVs when they get home from work, charging usually doesn't start until later. This is actually perfect because once backfeed chargers become more common people can use the energy stored in their EV to handle that peak load when they get home rather than pay potentially higher rates from the grid.
People charge their EV's after they get off work at night, so it would be at the same time.
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It's why solar power isn't a viable option.
Posted on 2/13/23 at 7:03 pm to fareplay
quote:I bet the first wife was a pain in the arse but billions of marriages later, here we are.
I bet the first car was also more expensive to run than a horse.
Posted on 2/13/23 at 7:03 pm to Korkstand
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once backfeed chargers become more common
Check it out
Enphase (ENPH) introduces bi-directional EV charging for an all-in-one solar home energy system
I have a beta of one of these i'm installing this weekend and going to take the PowerWalls offline and let my wifes car run everything and see how it works.
Posted on 2/13/23 at 7:05 pm to oldskule
quote:Well thankfully the people developing this technology have more than a 3rd grade education.
A 3rd grader can understand that this race to EVs will NOT work.....
Posted on 2/13/23 at 7:12 pm to billjamin
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gas prices
Natural gas prices are at the lowest they have been in decades. Mostly because of shale and fracking. Anything beyond that is just wrong, or intentionally wrong to drive up prices. The latter is probably mostly likely. I'm talking about US only btw. Europe is a completely different story
Posted on 2/13/23 at 7:12 pm to Gus007
quote:Bro Henry Ford had tons of power and he absolutely twisted arms and steered government funds to building roads so he could sell more Model T's.
Bet the government didn't threaten folks or offer subsidies to sell Model Ts.
If it's a good idea, folks will buy. If it's a bad product then persuasion and arm twisting becomes necessary.
Posted on 2/13/23 at 7:17 pm to lsunatchamp
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Europe is a completely different story
You realize i was responding to
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Just ask Germany
Posted on 2/13/23 at 7:47 pm to SPEEDY
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It's now 50% more expensive than fueling it with gas," he told CBS MoneyWatch.
Who didn't see that coming?
Posted on 2/13/23 at 8:47 pm to HeadSlash
quote:Everyone knew this was a possibility in places that depend heavily on fossil fuels for energy. Prices have always and will always be volatile. The solution is less dependence on fossil fuels.
Who didn't see that coming?
EVs did not cause this problem, but they are a big part of the solution.
Posted on 2/13/23 at 8:55 pm to fareplay
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I bet the first car was also more expensive to run than a horse.
Maybe so but which had more horsepower?
Posted on 2/13/23 at 9:08 pm to Korkstand
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EVs did not cause this problem, but they are a big part of the solution.
The infrastructure is not there to support EVs.
Posted on 2/13/23 at 9:17 pm to DeltaTigerDelta
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Maybe so but which had more horsepower?
The horse. I think the first automobile had 3/4HP. Although I’m not sure if that’s SAE or not.
Posted on 2/13/23 at 9:26 pm to SPEEDY
Honestly the media manipulation is truly disgusting. They don't care about objectivity, they want to shove you into little pods in the cities and control your consumption.
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