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re: Being/becoming a public school teacher in America is the worst career possible

Posted on 4/22/22 at 10:10 am to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 4/22/22 at 10:10 am to
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"crazy liberal teacher" clips on Fox News


I can tell you get your talking points from Reddit.
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
24752 posts
Posted on 4/22/22 at 10:47 am to
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-locked down 8 hours 5 days a week with other peoples kids… no way out

I get a 90 minute break from kids daily. Grow up.
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-germs, sickness, viruses everywhere
Should translate to killer immunity. I’ve called in sick maybe 4 times in 8 years.
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-no lunch hour

Grow up. Also, the way it sounds, you can’t afford lunch.
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-$20-$45k a year

That’s a lie. I make mid 50s. I could be content with that but I now work on breaks and any day off, including this week
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-insurance and benefits are gone
I get $500 every year deposited in my hsa, retirement pension isn’t bad
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-it’s basically become a daycare

Find it within yourself to lay down the law on Day one and stay disciplined. This is possible.

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Warn your kids before they get an degree in education.
Ha. I actually agree with this. Majored in history and got certified while teaching within 6 mo.

What’s there really to complain about? You either like sharing knowledge and like the interaction, or, ya don’t!
I’ve intentionally not sought other higher paying jobs in education because I like the classroom and think I’d be bored and unfulfilled in an office.
This post was edited on 4/22/22 at 10:49 am
Posted by Mootsman
Charlotte, NC
Member since Oct 2012
6226 posts
Posted on 4/22/22 at 10:47 am to
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There’s a reason we have an overwhelming amount of stupid teachers.


I dated a teacher once. She didn't understand how the moon worked. Like she thought it physically changed shape from crescent to half to full. She was very confused when I explained the lunar cycle. Pretty sure she still has no idea how it works.
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
24752 posts
Posted on 4/22/22 at 10:50 am to
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I dated a teacher once. She didn't understand how the moon worked. Like she thought it physically changed shape from crescent to half to full. She was very confused when I explained the lunar cycle. Pretty sure she still has no idea how it works.
You sound like the real problem in this scenario. First date: So let me tell you about moon phases. She dodged a bullet.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
70045 posts
Posted on 4/22/22 at 10:52 am to
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-locked down 8 hours 5 days a week


with 2-3 mos off and every possible holiday off in between

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-no lunch hour -$20-$45k a year -insurance and benefits are gone


WTF are you talking about?
Posted by LordSaintly
Member since Dec 2005
43201 posts
Posted on 4/22/22 at 10:55 am to
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I had a class of kids adamantly tell me that I could not subtract 19 from 27 because the '9' was larger than the '7'.



Bro, you were the math teacher. They didn't know because you didn't teach them.

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The administrators would never berate the students about their lack of care about education or about their low IQs.


Bruh, you think it would go over well if a principal started yelling at students for having low IQs?
This post was edited on 4/22/22 at 10:58 am
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
12462 posts
Posted on 4/22/22 at 10:58 am to
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Progressives fricked up Education when they pushed for mainstreaming.

Now its a money pit with districts rewarded for dysfunction.
On to another random fail of an argument, I see
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
24752 posts
Posted on 4/22/22 at 10:59 am to
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It pisses me off the amount of kids I get in Algebra 2 that couldn't give 2 shits about it and I can't blame them because they'll honestly never need it.
There’s a high school within the geographical confines of East Baton Rouge Parish that is very close to fully integrating all of the complaints regarding “one size fits all”. It’s incredible the number of pathways available.

Also, for saying amount of kids.
Posted by BatonrougeCajun
Somewhere in Texas
Member since Feb 2008
7592 posts
Posted on 4/22/22 at 11:02 am to
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Where?


DFW suburbs. I coach too so I may have ended up being disingenuous
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
12462 posts
Posted on 4/22/22 at 11:02 am to
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Cool anecdotal evidence
You too
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
12462 posts
Posted on 4/22/22 at 11:06 am to
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Private schools allocate much less money per student that public schools in Louisiana and have exponentially better outcomes.
Link?

Are those private schools providing free breakfast, lunch, and after school care?

*than

I hope you are not a math teacher, because I'm not sure you know what "exponentially" means. It is virtually impossible to measure relative school outcomes that way.
This post was edited on 4/22/22 at 11:26 am
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
44932 posts
Posted on 4/22/22 at 11:15 am to
key is making it to retirement, most don't
Posted by Limitlesstigers
Lafayette
Member since Nov 2019
3803 posts
Posted on 4/22/22 at 11:17 am to
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Link?

*than

I'm not sure you know what "exponentially" means. It is virtually impossible to measure relative school outcomes that way.
He's right but it has to do with the demographics of those students than the strategies used. My school spent about 3k less per year per student but our ACT average and college acceptance rate was much higher than any other school in the parish. We usually came from middle class families where the parents had average to higher natural IQ's.
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
12462 posts
Posted on 4/22/22 at 11:27 am to
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He's right but it has to do with the demographics of those students than the strategies used. My school spent about 3k less per year per student but our ACT average and college acceptance rate was much higher than any other school in the parish. We usually came from middle class families where the parents had average to higher natural IQ's.
You aren't providing free breakfast, lunch, and after school care.

It's not the parents' "natural IQs" that make the difference. That is faux Darwinian hogwash.

It is their level of education and socioeconomic status. Parents' education and SES are by far the biggest predictors of student success. Rich, educated parents produce higher performing kids.
This post was edited on 4/22/22 at 11:30 am
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
Lurking the Tin Foil Hat Board
Member since Jul 2009
50742 posts
Posted on 4/22/22 at 11:29 am to
My daughter (no pics) is a teacher.

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-no lunch hour
False

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-$20-$45k a year
False

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-insurance and benefits are gone
False

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-it’s basically become a daycare
For some teachers and parents it has. Not all of them.

Posted by 0x15E
Outer Space
Member since Sep 2020
14735 posts
Posted on 4/22/22 at 11:31 am to
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$45k


My aunt was making that after 5 years in back in the 80s

So I know that’s a bullshite guess. Especially for it to be your top figure.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 4/22/22 at 11:32 am to
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Especially for it to be your top figure


Yeha, that's not close to median for top pay in the profession across the country.
Posted by SantaFe
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2019
7853 posts
Posted on 4/22/22 at 11:33 am to
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I had a class of kids adamantly tell me that I could not subtract 19 from 27 because the '9' was larger than the '7'.


Bro, you were the math teacher. They didn't know because you didn't teach them.

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The administrators would never berate the students about their lack of care about education or about their low IQs.


Bruh, you think it would go over well if a principal started yelling at students for having low IQs?


No , I was not the math teacher. I taught U.S. and Louisiana history.

Posted by Antib551
Houma, LA
Member since Dec 2018
1408 posts
Posted on 4/22/22 at 11:35 am to
Wife is a public school teacher in Terrebonne Parish. I believe she made around $37k last year. This is her 9th year teaching. Private schools here are significantly less.

This year, because of Ida, the only full week holiday break they got was Christmas. The others were reduced to 1 or 2 days. This year they will not get out until the 1st week of June. The "reduced breaks" are hard on teachers because it is extremely hard on kids to focus and produce in school for that long without a real mental break.

Even without the hurricane, she has about 10-15 min to each lunch, and half of that is spent tending to the kids opening drinks and food containers. Most days she doesn't get her planning period for a myriad of reasons. And several times a week, she has extra kids in her class because another teacher had to leave early to handle personal business so they split the kids between the other 4 classes.

Her job sucks arse, but she loves summers off with our kids (especially because I work from home), so she sticks with it. She started teaching after 2011, so the retirement requirements and benefits are significantly changed/reduced for her, as opposed to the older group.
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49413 posts
Posted on 4/22/22 at 11:38 am to
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Link?


The budgets of various BR private schools and the budget of EBR schools.


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Are those private schools providing free breakfast, lunch, and after school care?

*than


Those are dollar allocations. They count in terms of spending per student. If you think that is bad policy (which it very well may be) so be it but you don’t get to line item expenditures when you are the one making that argument that spending is correlated to outcomes.

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I hope you are not a math teacher, because I'm not sure you know what "exponentially" means. It is virtually impossible to measure relative school outcomes that way.


I know exactly what exponential means. And there are exponential differences in objective measurements like college scholarship money, tier 1 college acceptance rates, etc.

Private schools spend less money per student and have significantly better outcomes.
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