re: A record-high share of 40-year-olds in the U.S. have never been married

This is not surprising considering a record number of children are born out of wedlock. Government nuking the nuclear family!

I think one of the biggest issues is how society changed. When the gender roles were for women to stay at home and raise the kids they had less interaction with men flirting with them at work.

Another issue is social media has made it easier to cheat on a spouse because you discreetly connect with people online.

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If you can't handle me at my worst then you don't deserve my best" has been translated into I will be vile at all times and still expect you to grovel at my feet.


The vast majority of today’s women believe that, too. They have almost all of the leverage in any relationship, not just marriage, and they know it.

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This is what happened in my marriage about two or three years into it. I was young and stupid and stayed in it. Had kids, then things got worse when she started to make good money.

Once it became impossible to meet her demands in order just to spend a few minutes with her, she then latched on to some divorced feminist friends and (thankfully) ended the marriage.

While going through the divorce, I was flat out told by my lawyer that, despite being in a position legally to have all the cards, since I was a male, I would be screwed by the system. I do well on my own, she just did better. Had the roles been reversed, she would have gotten a ton of child support from me. Double standards everywhere. I just settled on splitting everything evenly and didn't even try to get anything else. If I could go back and do it over, I would NEVER get married. I love my kids, but my marriage was a huge mistake.

This thread is going to get reeeeeally neckbeardy .

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imagine being a woman trying to find a man with what you see in society today.

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Feminists have demanded the feminization of men for decades. Now that they have it, they're asking "where are all the real men?". Well, bitch, you killed them. The ones that survived married real, feminine, submissive women. Real men have no use for masculine, InstaTHOT, OnlyFans type women.

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People that don’t want to get married or have kids don’t owe people that do want marriage and kids anything.

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I don't think they owe us anything, but raising the adults of the future is hard work. It's like being the one in a group project who does all of the work while the other ones sit there and just want to "relax and have time for themselves."

It's pretty innate in humans to want to create their progeny, so it's hard to understand.

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Average women want nothing to do with Average men

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we just need to not be average men

on Tamron Hall they were talking about women whom intimidated men by having their own houses, and high powered jobs, and wondered how they could find someone on their level

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How does some people not wanting to get married impact those who do?

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It doesn't, and I don't see where I implied that. It was simply an answer to the question of why rich, attractive men would still consider marriage.

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People that don’t want to get married or have kids don’t owe people that do want marriage and kids anything.

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Ok.
Edit to add you kind of do owe us for producing the future generation who will care for you when you're old.

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Point me to a woman who can atay off social media during a night out and I'll consider getting married.

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I won’t argue with your point, but I think in general, if I were single, I would be looking for solutions instead of focusing on society-wide problems.

I would ingrain in myself the idea that inside almost every woman, even those raised by dipshits in a devolving, materialistic, shallow, “feminist” (though not really beneficial to or protective of women) society, there is the making of a good woman who will be by my side and walk through life with me as we take on the challenge of living in this world.

Traditional society had its flaws, but it certainly had one thing right. It gave almost all ordinary men and women the opportunity to be kings and queens in their own households and to feel as if their life wasn’t wasted.