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re: A bill that would have banned gender-affirming care for minors in Louisiana has died

Posted on 5/24/23 at 11:14 pm to
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
16104 posts
Posted on 5/24/23 at 11:14 pm to
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You cannot mutilate your child. That's pretty much it. Other than that, parent away!


Im for this, when do we ban circumcision?

In Louisiana it is illegal to do any genital surgery for gender reassignment for anyone under 18. It is currently only allowed for circumcision, which is a religious thing rather than a tranny thing.
This post was edited on 5/24/23 at 11:23 pm
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
26821 posts
Posted on 5/24/23 at 11:16 pm to
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Just like at 18 years old, i don't think the parents should get a say any longer.
IF parents shouldn’t have a say over their 18 year old child’s decision, the who the hells going to pay for the surgeries?


I don't give a frick.
That's the 18 year old's problem.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
26821 posts
Posted on 5/24/23 at 11:19 pm to
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Words matter. If both parents consent, medical professionals consent, and the child consents, why is the government telling parents what to do? Where does that line end?


That’s the problem. A child cannot consent because they lack the mental ability to comprehend the consequences of their decision.


Thank you.
That is where both parents come in.

But do you feel a child should not be forced to take puberty blockers? If the parents and doctors are for the gender affirming care, should the child not get a say?

Words matter. That's why i include both parents, the doctors, and the child.
This post was edited on 5/24/23 at 11:20 pm
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
26821 posts
Posted on 5/24/23 at 11:24 pm to
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You seem to think that if the government can prevent doctors from doing dumb shite like gender reassignment on kids that also means they have total control over your kids. That's asinine.


Parents have the right to consent for/with the child.

The thread title is "gender affirming care" which includes sterilizing drugs.

If you call that mutilating care, I won't disagree.

But i disagree with you.
The government should have no right to tell me what medicines to give or not give my child.
Posted by subotic
Member since Dec 2012
2827 posts
Posted on 5/24/23 at 11:28 pm to
I would never compare gender reassignment protocols to circumcision.
Posted by BrohanDavey
The Land Down Under
Member since Oct 2018
788 posts
Posted on 5/25/23 at 12:15 am to
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because wolves in sheep’s clothing have infiltrated every facet of society


Make no mistake, this wolf comes as a wolf. Literally predators grooming children
Posted by heymama
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2022
428 posts
Posted on 5/25/23 at 12:57 am to
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Literally predators grooming children

Are we talking about white men in power positions like religious leaders, teachers, coaches, and Uncle Touchy again?

Statistically speaking, my daughters are much more likely to be groomed and molested by those men, not than a man who wants to wear the same bathing suit as them and have enough room for his nuts to fit…and later wants the freedom to decide to just cut his nuts off.
Posted by Philzilla
Member since Nov 2011
2214 posts
Posted on 5/25/23 at 4:36 am to
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Words matter.

Law matters. Children can’t give consent.
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
86173 posts
Posted on 5/25/23 at 6:20 am to
“Gender affirming care. “ The Orwellian term of the year. How absolutely grotesque the pro- child- mutilation creeps are. Imagine thinking that a child should make life altering changes to his body when his brain is not even close to being developed. When he believed in Santa Claus fifteen minutes ago.

Stopping the castrators and mutilators is going to become a real thing very soon. The burden of proof is on them. For thousand of years the idea of transitioning human beings to another gender was non existent. The entire history of the human race. Because we had moral clarity and honored common sense we would have just called it what it was; castration and mutilation. And now they want to chemically castrate children and call it “ affirmation”? The same thing we do to sex offenders ? Alter their lives irrecoverably? Instead of giving them legitimate mental health care ? Seriously?

And where the frick is the science on this? How can they be comfortable making a Guinea pig of a child by chemically castrating them ? Where did this authority come from ? Mentally ill Leftist activists? Doctors with a sick profit motive? What should their punishment be for aiding and abetting in this crime 20 years down the road when we look back on this with revulsion? Will their apology be enough to make up for fetishizing child mutilation and destroying lives?

They can frick right off with this dystopian nightmare shite. It’s a bridge too far. The only thing being affirmed here is their complete lack of humanity.

Posted by michael corleone
baton rouge
Member since Jun 2005
6554 posts
Posted on 5/25/23 at 6:21 am to
Don’t we have laws that state

1) a child under 17 can’t consent to sex
2) a child under 18’cant consent to a body piercing
3) a person under 21 can’t consent to purchasing alcohol or tobacco products ?


But it’s ok for them to consent to permanently chopping a reproductive organ off bc they “feel” like it ?
Posted by calcotron
Member since Nov 2007
10747 posts
Posted on 5/25/23 at 7:02 am to
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And where the frick is the science on this?


The trans activists have no science. Seriously, do any research. I read When Harry Became Sally, it is full of decades of references and data before this nonsense came along, and rebuttals to it cite no data or science, they basically just call everyone a bigot. Even their own activism is full of contradiction and clear untruths. "Assigned at birth" - nope, it's actually determined at the instant of conception. Every cell in your body knows that it is male or female. "My gender is innate and immutable and I KNOW what I am and that my gender doesn't match my body", "this is who they are!", also at the same time "some people are gender fluid". The people blindly backing this so they don't get called bigots need to stand up for truth.
Posted by terriblegreen
Souf Badden Rewage
Member since Aug 2011
12300 posts
Posted on 5/25/23 at 7:05 am to
It's only woke arse frickers mutilating their kids. At the end of the day, as long as they are preaching LGBTQ shite in schools here, I don't care how liberals destroy their families.
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
86173 posts
Posted on 5/25/23 at 7:11 am to
It’s a catastrophic combination of feminine emoting and Leftist ideology. Rational thought , science, morality, spirituality, ethics, have no place. Look at the vapid and ill-informed woman in this thread, it actually hurts my eyes to read her musings. They don’t even attempt to think anymore. They just emote, throw around some slogans , drop a few virtue- signaling insults and move on to the next thing they want to wreck. At its heart is extreme cultural narcissism- an elevation of self over God. It’s a sickness. They have made our culture profoundly sick.
This post was edited on 5/25/23 at 7:14 am
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
33522 posts
Posted on 5/25/23 at 7:19 am to
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Allowing garden district libs to remove their bloodlines from the gene pool will only make society better in the long run

Yes but how much will they disrupt society in between, and what will we be left with?
Posted by deathvalleytiger10
Member since Sep 2009
9283 posts
Posted on 5/25/23 at 8:18 am to
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I really feel like this is a decision between the parents and their kids.


I 100% disagree. Kids do not understand the consequences of this decision. How many of these parents are coercing them?

Let the child get to 18 and then make whatever decision they want. But, in my mind, it is child abuse to advocate for this before the child is an adult.

Do we allow parents to take their kids to get tattoos at age 6? I mean, it is between and parent and child, right?
Posted by ShoeBang
Member since May 2012
22272 posts
Posted on 5/25/23 at 8:25 am to
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Give me a break. Are you talking about white men in power positions like religious leaders, teachers, coaches, and Uncle Touchy?


Yes I am. Not sure who uncle touchy is but he must be important to you.
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
26316 posts
Posted on 5/25/23 at 8:27 am to
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gender-affirming medical care for minors


This battle is lost. Language matters. Call it what it is, child abuse
Posted by AwesomeSauce
Das Boot
Member since May 2015
11455 posts
Posted on 5/25/23 at 8:29 am to
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Ok, I ignored it the first time, but since you’ve mentioned it again, I have to ask…what are you talking about?
Connecticut at the behest of the ACLU of CT rewrote there protected class citizens list in the law. They change language that defined sexual attraction from "heterosexual, homosexual, and bisexual" to "all sexual identities" while also it removed language where identities whose underlying behavior would be a sex crime were not protected. While it did not make it legal, it does in fact make Pedophiles or "MAP" as they want to be called a protected sexual identity in the state of Connecticut.

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Can you provide a link?
PDF of the Bill
The bill as a whole reads as one would expect and there is nothing inherently wrong with it. The redactions and verbiage changes just now have made Pedophiles a protected class in CT. It is still illegal, but they are a protected class.
Posted by michael corleone
baton rouge
Member since Jun 2005
6554 posts
Posted on 5/25/23 at 8:33 am to
So if the child , parents and doctors consent to amputating two healthy legs bc the child wants to be wheel chair bound the government should allow it ? What if the child wants to be euthanized bc he depressed from failing to make the High School basketball team? If the parents and doctor also consent I guess the government should allow that as well ?



The entire point of this is that children are impulsive and whimsical. They don’t have the cognitive ability to think through long term consequences or actions and behaviors. You can’t let them “consent” to something that will permanently alter their body.
Posted by PoBoy1
Member since Mar 2014
505 posts
Posted on 5/25/23 at 8:34 am to
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Our law makers are VERY content to fight the culture wars


Not Republican lawmakers. They don't know or understand what time it is.
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