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re: A bill that would have banned gender-affirming care for minors in Louisiana has died
Posted on 5/24/23 at 3:18 pm to meansonny
Posted on 5/24/23 at 3:18 pm to meansonny
Let these demons frick each others' fake front butts with their surgically enhanced metaclits until they die out for all I care. But they cannot be allowed to take all naïvete from children with this nonsense. That innocence is the greatest gift we can give to our children before they realize there are monsters among us.
I'm all for freedom but apparently some people aren't responsible enough to care for themselves, let alone children. Freedom does not come without responsibility.
We as a society should not need government to take care of this problem but here we are, letting insane people run amok in the name of inclusion.
I'm all for freedom but apparently some people aren't responsible enough to care for themselves, let alone children. Freedom does not come without responsibility.
We as a society should not need government to take care of this problem but here we are, letting insane people run amok in the name of inclusion.
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Posted on 5/24/23 at 3:20 pm to AwesomeSauce
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What happens when the child and Doctor make the decision and the parent says No?
Words matter. If one parent doesn't consent, then the procedure isn't authorized.
Don't confuse the stories in Canada and UK for the US. There are no examples of sterilization without parent consent here.
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There are times where legislation is needed to curtail government overreach. It is a damned if you, damned if you don't, but in my opinion the damned if you don't is the greater evil in this situation. You are welcome to your opinion, as we all are. That said today you need all three, tomorrow you just need two and government becomes the parent anyway.
That's just gibberish.
Words matter.
If both parents consent, medical professionals consent, and the child consents, why is the government telling parents what to do?
Where does that line end?
Posted on 5/24/23 at 3:21 pm to subotic
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Let these demons frick each others' fake front butts with their surgically enhanced metaclits until they die out for all I care. But they cannot be allowed to take all naïvete from children with this nonsense. That innocence is the greatest gift we can give to our children before they realize there are monsters among us.
I'm all for freedom but apparently some people aren't responsible enough to care for themselves, let alone children. Freedom does not come without responsibility.
We as a society should not need government to take care of this problem but here we are, letting insane people run amok in the name of inclusion.
You are literally telling other parents that you know what is best for their child.
But you would grab your shotgun if the roles were reversed.
Posted on 5/24/23 at 3:25 pm to meansonny
I'm telling them they apparently don't know their arse from a hole in the ground and probably shouldn't even make nutritional choices for the kids.
I don't know what's best for their kids, I just know it's not an option to become another gender.
I don't know what's best for their kids, I just know it's not an option to become another gender.
Posted on 5/24/23 at 3:27 pm to subotic
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I don't know what's best for their kids
You say that and then want legislature to act like they do know what is best.
Either parents have rights or they don't.
This post was edited on 5/24/23 at 3:28 pm
Posted on 5/24/23 at 3:28 pm to Roy Curado
Fred Mills is a POS. The bullshite he pulled during covid is criminal.
Posted on 5/24/23 at 3:30 pm to Barrister
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People are just mad because the TV told you to be mad
I’m not mad, I just don’t agree with teaching children about sexual deviance before they can understand the consequences because it is presented to them as something positive and not deviant.
Posted on 5/24/23 at 3:30 pm to alajones
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I really feel like this is a decision between the parents and their kids. Laws like this seem to me to be government overreach.
I think all this trans stuff isn’t healthy. I think it’s a bad idea that minors get life altering surgery. They are too young to make that decision. But in America, people have the right to make dumbass decisions.
Minors also shouldn’t be covering themselves in tats, two hundred pounds overweight, fricking up their earlobes, etc. But it’s between them and their parents.
I think this is low hanging fruit for Republicans. They need to address other issues.
I can't disagree with this. I don't think there needs to be more laws in which government tells people what to do. I can have my opinions, but at the end of the day if people really want to get something done they will find away to do it.
I'd rather these mother frickers use the time spent on this shite discussing ways they can improve infrastructure around the state and fix the fricking traffic problems in baton rouge.
Then they can maybe come up with something on how they can help city police departments attract more people to become officers since there are departments that have less officers on the street today than they did 4-5 years ago.
After that, they can take a swing at the economy. What industries can they attract to the state?
You know, shite that has an impact on a lot more people.
Posted on 5/24/23 at 3:44 pm to meansonny
quote:You are correct I was confusing CA the state and CA the country in the files I read. My bad there. You already have states like Washington though pushing to be a safe haven for runaway minors seeking gender affirming care. Thankfully it does appear that some of the more dangerous language was redacted or modified at this time before it passed their senate. The state won't be paying for the care as the original bill stated and the shelters housing the minors so they can get care do have to attempt to reach the parents in 72 hours.
Don't confuse the stories in Canada and UK for the US. There are no examples of sterilization without parent consent here.
quote:I hope you are right. I am sure the fact it is occurring in our Neigbors to the North and Europe is just happenstance. I'm also sure a US state pushing to protect pedophiles in just gibberish as well.
That's just gibberish.
quote:If what is happening in other countries and doesn't come to fruition here as it did there, then you are correct. I see those as warning signs, and would rather have legislation in place than have these cases possibly fall in the lap of a judge.
If both parents consent, medical professionals consent, and the child consents, why is the government telling parents what to do?
Where does that line end?
I will agree that the legislation should state both parents and a doctor must sign off than an all out ban. I also think that is the most prudent way, I also realize the climate we live in and that this would have little chance of passing as well because it would be villainized as 'Pro-LGBTQIA+'.
Posted on 5/24/23 at 3:47 pm to ShoeBang
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I’m not mad, I just don’t agree with teaching children about sexual deviance before they can understand the consequences because it is presented to them as something positive and not deviant.
I don't disagree.
I'm fine with specific books being removed from elementary school libraries.
Ideally, it would be local school boards making those decisions and not state politicians. But state level politicians are more accountable to me than federal level politicians (from other states).
Posted on 5/24/23 at 3:50 pm to meansonny
One day in the future I see the backlash of all backlash happening.
Its going to be glorious when the people finally say, nah.
Its going to be glorious when the people finally say, nah.
Posted on 5/24/23 at 3:52 pm to meansonny
Posted on 5/24/23 at 3:53 pm to alajones
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really feel like this is a decision between the parents and their kids. Laws like this seem to me to be government overreach. I think all this trans stuff isn’t healthy. I think it’s a bad idea that minors get life altering surgery. They are too young to make that decision. But in America, people have the right to make dumbass decisions. Minors also shouldn’t be covering themselves in tats, two hundred pounds overweight, fricking up their earlobes, etc. But it’s between them and their parents. I think this is low hanging fruit for Republicans. They need to address other issues.
This isn’t about trannys per se.
It’s about the medical field lobbying to keep these surgeries going so they can make $$$.
Posted on 5/24/23 at 3:54 pm to jralspanky
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Fred H. Mills Jr.
Either isn't running or will lose the next election.
Posted on 5/24/23 at 4:19 pm to meansonny
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Child never consents. That's the obvious problem with abortion.
they're a child. they can't consent
quote:????? the fetus is part of a woman's body
I tell every woman that I'm in favor of their bodily autonomy. To me, that autonomy starts at conception (about 20 to 40 weeks before the prochoice crowd says it begins). But it only extends to their body, not their fetus.
until it's born
Posted on 5/24/23 at 4:24 pm to meansonny
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You are saying that a parent, a child, and a doctor can't do what they feel is best for the child because the child is a minor.
The problem is it’s really a way to backdoor in circumventing parental consent “for the safety of the child” which a bullshite way of justifying and pushing tran child mutilation.
So first it’s a parental consent matter. Next it’s a child safety matter despite a lack of parental consent. This is already happening in various degrees btw. For example, groomer teachers hiding gender/sex issues from parents.
The end goal is child tran surgery regardless of what the parents consent or not.
Posted on 5/24/23 at 4:25 pm to Teufelhunden
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As evidenced by the rage on this and other message boards and social media, this is the shite that gets out the base. Fiscal policy generates little energy although it has the most impact on our lives. Bud light's advertising or target's product line have zero impact on my life but our tax code, tort laws, infrastructure, energy plans, etc. all do. Our law makers are VERY content to fight the culture wars because it's easy and they can continue to rob us all while offering bread and circus.
This is 100% it. Theyve found the right button to push for now and its the tranny button.
And we wonder why nothing ever changes, people care more about social bs than everything else combined.
Posted on 5/24/23 at 4:27 pm to Barrister
I guess you could say that's what got us in this mess we're in.
Posted on 5/24/23 at 4:27 pm to Havoc
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The problem is it’s really a way to backdoor in circumventing parental consent “for the safety of the child” which a bull shite way of justifying and pushing tran child mutilation.
So first it’s a parental consent matter. Next it’s a child safety matter despite a lack of parental consent. This is already happening in various degrees btw. For example, groomer teachers hiding gender/sex issues from parents.
The end goal is child tran surgery regardless of what the parents consent or not.
You can't make a point about parental rights...
So you strawman future worst case scenarios.
Got it.
Either a parent has rights or they don't.
I've not once mentioned anything about the safety of the child.
I do argue that no one cares about the safety of a child more than a parent.
And if you want to support a government that has the right to tell a parent how they raise their child, then I can never agree with you on that. Ever.
Posted on 5/24/23 at 4:29 pm to chalmetteowl
You're in the wrong thread.
Start a new one if you have to.
Start a new one if you have to.
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