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re: 1 in 7 remote workers have sex, shop instead of clocking full day

Posted on 6/14/23 at 1:31 pm to
Posted by Jcorye1
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Posted on 6/14/23 at 1:31 pm to
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Nearly 12% drank on company time and 10.5% admitted to a “nooner,” according to the study.


Sounds like a regular Friday at a lot of accounting offices.
Posted by Shexter
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Member since Feb 2014
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Posted on 6/14/23 at 1:32 pm to
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80% of respondents said they would spend more time on assigned tasks if they only had to work four days each week


Wouldn't it be more beneficial to just bullshite these survey takers?
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
39748 posts
Posted on 6/14/23 at 1:34 pm to
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Meh. I’m remote three days a week. I typically have breaks between chunks of clients and do what I will because I’m not being paid for non-client hours. I meet more than my weekly required quota of client hours (will get to my full licensure faster a result). Also allows me to see more clients on remote days because I’m not spending the time commuting. And allows me the freedom to do things like my own doctor’s appointments without really disrupting my work day. Does WFH work for everyone? No. But if you’re in a job where you can and it does effect your productivity then it’s silly to not have that option.


Do you report your non-client hours as work hours? Are you paid for them? If not, those are your hours and you SHOULD do what ever the hell you want.

If you’re being paid for 8 hours a day (and your paycheck reflects hourly pay) and you claim to be working 8 hours but only work 5, that’s not right in my opinion.

I’m salaried, meaning I simply need to get tasks accomplished. My boss doesn’t care how much I work as long as my tasks are completed on time.
Posted by slacker130
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Member since Jul 2010
8627 posts
Posted on 6/14/23 at 1:35 pm to
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Easy to fix that...you can only work from home if you've been married for at least 10 years.



Choose wisely my friends.
Posted by Areddishfish
The Wild West
Member since Oct 2015
6330 posts
Posted on 6/14/23 at 1:39 pm to
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I bet on-site employees in the same types of jobs are only logging 4-5 hours a day.



If you need your full workday everyday to do tasks, you either aren't efficient at working, or you or management isn't good at delegating.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 6/14/23 at 1:40 pm to
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If you’re being paid for 8 hours a day (and your paycheck reflects hourly pay) and you claim to be working 8 hours but only work 5, that’s not right in my opinion.



There's more shite to do that is "work" than what you can actually bill a client for.

This post was edited on 6/14/23 at 1:42 pm
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112428 posts
Posted on 6/14/23 at 1:40 pm to
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so unsupervised people don't work all day?

huh!
The great thing is if the company is a solid company, they have metrics and can easily know who is producing and who isn't.


If your employee is sitting around at home all day not doing shite and you have no idea or way to tell if they are or aren't, your company has serious issues.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 6/14/23 at 1:41 pm to
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Do you report your non-client hours as work hours? Are you paid for them? If not, those are your hours and you SHOULD do what ever the hell you want.



I'm only paid for client face-to-face hours (was 1099 but now W-2, not salary). Or if a commercial client no shows/late cancels (we can't charge those fees to Medicaid folks who don't show/late cancel). So the hours in-between are non-paid hours. I just have a weekly quota I have to meet (and it's scheduled clients, not ones that actually show up).

quote:

If you’re being paid for 8 hours a day (and your paycheck reflects hourly pay) and you claim to be working 8 hours but only work 5, that’s not right in my opinion.

I’m salaried, meaning I simply need to get tasks accomplished. My boss doesn’t care how much I work as long as my tasks are completed on time.


IMO the large question is what kind of job are you working? I've definitely had hourly jobs in the past that I wasn't working non-stop for 8 hours a shift because of the nature of the job. There would be downtime during those 8 hours. I imagine that's common in a lot of desk-jobs to be honest.

For instance, say you WFH at a call center job. You might have a high volume of calls in the afternoon but not in the early morning. So you may have the freedom on the clock to do the things in the OP, but as long as you're answering your calls when they come then it shouldn't be an issue.

A lot of variables here.
Posted by Salmon
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Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 6/14/23 at 1:42 pm to
I painted the exterior of my house and remodeled my kitchen when I was working from home

Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
16871 posts
Posted on 6/14/23 at 1:43 pm to
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so unsupervised people don't work all day?

huh!



I'm not a remote worker and I'm not supervised at all

Rules apply same as working remote - get your shite done and done well and we don't care what else you do.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112428 posts
Posted on 6/14/23 at 1:44 pm to
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And that 1 out of 7 should face the consequences for their poor work output. If their work output is fine, then I don't see the issue. You're paid for your deliverables or value that you add to the company, not your physical presence in an office.

Bingo, if you're salaried....maybe not the drinking part lol.

If you're meeting your deadline and a top level employee and getting your shite done, I see no issue.

I previously had a WFH job with a smaller company, around 60 employees that was a successful company that eventually got bought out by a bigger company for a decent amount, and when we had "late" internal Zoom meetings like 4:30pm or whatever, it was common for folks to have a glass of wine or beer they were sipping on during the call. And this is upper management folks.
Posted by tigerbutt
Deep South
Member since Jun 2006
25385 posts
Posted on 6/14/23 at 1:44 pm to
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I am very productive. I went to the casino for lunch today and won $4300 while there.


And lost $5300 the day before.
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
175503 posts
Posted on 6/14/23 at 1:45 pm to
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And lost $5300 the day before.



I hadn't stepped foot in a casino in nearly two years before today.
Posted by Supermoto Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2010
10321 posts
Posted on 6/14/23 at 1:48 pm to
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80% of respondents said they would spend more time on assigned tasks if they only had to work four days each week
The 3 months I worked from home during the COVID peak, I did all of the above. BUT, I also would work later and accomplished more. A lot more. I would say roughly twice as much.

The no traffic, no dress code, no need to travel for lunch...that shite goes a long fricking way.
Posted by SonicAndBareKnuckles
Member since Jun 2018
1755 posts
Posted on 6/14/23 at 1:49 pm to
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The survey also found that 74.7% scrolled through social media, 69.6% shopped online, 52.9% watched movies and 32.2% planned a trip.

Nearly 12% drank on company time and 10.5% admitted to a “nooner,” according to the study.


Office workers goof off at a higher rate than this.
Posted by ghost2most
Member since Mar 2012
7473 posts
Posted on 6/14/23 at 1:49 pm to
Oh no!

We better get them back in the office so they can be miserable and less productive.

We all know no one in the office goofs off.

Don't pay attention to the smokers who take a 15-minute break every hour.

Or the gossips who hang out in the lounge 20 minutes at a time.

Or the people who show up 15 minutes late every day and leave 10 minutes early.

Or the countless hours wasted on in-person meetings where there's no agenda and a whole lot of bsing and about 5 minutes of work per hour.

Or the people who scroll the web all day. Or those that just do it on their phones instead.

Blue-collar workers hate work from home because it's not an option but it's definitely the better way to work.
This post was edited on 6/14/23 at 1:59 pm
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
48701 posts
Posted on 6/14/23 at 1:58 pm to
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The extracurricular activities resulted in one in seven employees logging just three to four hours of actual work,

Despite the seeming distractions, two-thirds of the workers said they feel they’re more productive when free from office mandates.


We live in a post-industrial economy, the idea that someone had to work 8 hours a day is antiquated.
Posted by BUKA
CrackerLand
Member since May 2023
329 posts
Posted on 6/14/23 at 1:59 pm to
most people working from home aren't able to have sex

they don't have the skills to even talk to girls
Posted by BigBinBR
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2023
7328 posts
Posted on 6/14/23 at 2:02 pm to
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Office workers goof off at a higher rate than this.


Especially the smokers.

They all say it only takes them 5 min to smoke. But it takes 10 min to get all their shite and their smoking buddies. Then they have to walk out to the smoking area. Then they smoke for 5 min. Then it takes them 10 min to go back to work because they have to stop by the bathroom and wash all the nasty smoke smell off. So a “5 minute” smoke break is really 25 min and they do that shite every hour or 2.

So glad I don’t have to deal with the trashy smokers any more.
Posted by AbitaFan08
Boston, MA
Member since Apr 2008
27628 posts
Posted on 6/14/23 at 2:08 pm to
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The extracurricular activities resulted in one in seven employees logging just three to four hours of actual work


Probably the same amount of actual work that was done while in the office. The difference now is that people don’t have to pretend to be working the other 4-5 hours.
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