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re: Pelicans are in play for Dejounte Murray according to Chris Haynes.

Posted on 2/7/24 at 7:53 pm to
Posted by Macintosh
Lane State University
Member since Sep 2011
56578 posts
Posted on 2/7/24 at 7:53 pm to
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Dejounte is not a good shooter.

He doesn’t know
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
62446 posts
Posted on 2/7/24 at 7:59 pm to
The problem is it sounds like the Hawks are doing this because they don't think the Murray/Trae backcourt is working and they want to trade Murray and improve at the same time.

Does Dyson really improve them for a playoff run? They do have a lot of shooting so they might be able to make it work. But if they don't want JV/Dyson/Picks for Murray there's really no deal to be made.
Posted by ghost2most
Member since Mar 2012
7926 posts
Posted on 2/7/24 at 8:01 pm to
Good teams are fricking delusional.

What kind of stupid trade would this be for the Hawks.

LINK
As I noted a couple weeks ago, the Bucks are considering packaging Bobby Portis and Pat Connaughton in a trade for possibly Bruce Brown or Dejounte Murray. You can add Kyle Kuzma to the list.

lol Portis and Connaughton?
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
11544 posts
Posted on 2/7/24 at 8:01 pm to
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Does Dyson really improve them for a playoff run? They do have a lot of shooting so they might be able to make it work. But if they don't want JV/Dyson/Picks for Murray there's really no deal to be made.


Plus it saves them money which I think is a bigger deal for them. JV expires and Dyson is on his rookie deal. Personally, I don’t think they care about this year’s playoff run as much.
Posted by jamal
Places Unknown
Member since Jan 2013
13192 posts
Posted on 2/7/24 at 8:16 pm to
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I'll be pressing refresh all day tomorrow.

Don’t get too excited. Doubt we make any major moves.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
62446 posts
Posted on 2/7/24 at 8:19 pm to
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Don’t get too excited. Doubt we make any major moves.


You must have missed the thread where Naji is out tonight...
Posted by kpop1
Member since Jan 2018
1675 posts
Posted on 2/7/24 at 8:32 pm to
I have him as a career 34.3% 3pt. shooter. He is around 37% this year. What am i missing?
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
11544 posts
Posted on 2/7/24 at 8:34 pm to
Considering hes pretty damn good getting to the rim and scoring. 37% 3 pt shooting is pretty good.
Posted by kpop1
Member since Jan 2018
1675 posts
Posted on 2/7/24 at 8:51 pm to
He is definitely a scorer. And a very good player, all-star, etc. Mine was just a devil's advocate statement saying and meaning he is not a very good 3 pt shooter. Where the offense is set up to surround Zion with SHOOTERS, he is simply not a good shooter. 37 percent is good. This year he has been good. Just a checks and balance assessment of his game as I see it.
Posted by tibebecolston
Member since Mar 2013
4513 posts
Posted on 2/7/24 at 9:00 pm to
It would be BI for Murray or picks for Murray.

Murray and BI are arguable equal players, maybe most would be higher on Murray in general as the league seems to not see BI as a big 3 player on a championship roster.

However, it’s not a big difference other than fit imo.
Posted by Balsamic_duck
Member since Jun 2017
4455 posts
Posted on 2/7/24 at 9:08 pm to
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It would be BI for Murray or picks for Murray. Murray and BI are arguable equal players, maybe most would be higher on Murray in general as the league seems to not see BI as a big 3 player on a championship roster. However, it’s not a big difference other than fit imo.


I agree, but there is a big difference in salary which is why would much prefer BI
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
34582 posts
Posted on 2/7/24 at 9:43 pm to
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Basically

I know I'm repeating myself but the only way it works is to then use BI for a major center upgrade in the offseason.



That would be terrible.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112898 posts
Posted on 2/7/24 at 9:43 pm to
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That would be terrible.
Why?

The alternative is a BI max that immediately becomes a negative value contract.
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
34582 posts
Posted on 2/7/24 at 9:46 pm to
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deal is great, which is why I’d want to deal BI for him. He gives you 90% of BI for 60% of the cost




Murray gives you 90% of bi? Damn the bi hate is getting out of hand.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112898 posts
Posted on 2/7/24 at 10:02 pm to
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Murray gives you 90% of bi? Damn the bi hate is getting out of hand.
Uhh Yes, how does he not?

BI - 22ppg and 6 assists

Murray - 21ppg and 5 assists


BI more efficient scorer. Murray better defender.
This post was edited on 2/7/24 at 10:03 pm
Posted by SWLA92
SWLA
Member since Feb 2015
5056 posts
Posted on 2/8/24 at 12:14 am to
Not sure how contracts add up but could it be Val/Dyson/1st for Murray/Capella?
Posted by Dantheman504
N/A
Member since Jun 2013
6530 posts
Posted on 2/8/24 at 12:24 am to
Wonder if we can get Isiah Stewart with Naji and 1st. He's the most realistic "available" fit
Posted by Solo
Member since Aug 2008
8257 posts
Posted on 2/8/24 at 12:33 am to
I don’t hate that…
Posted by Balsamic_duck
Member since Jun 2017
4455 posts
Posted on 2/8/24 at 12:36 am to
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Murray gives you 90% of bi? Damn the bi hate is getting out of hand.


Yeah. Murray is making half of what BI makes. You cannot sit there and tell me BI is twice as good. They’re around the same tier of player . BI is probably better but not by much. Factor in contract and I would waaaaaaay rather Murray
Posted by Balsamic_duck
Member since Jun 2017
4455 posts
Posted on 2/8/24 at 12:37 am to
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Wonder if we can get Isiah Stewart with Naji and 1st. He's the most realistic "available" fit


Money doesn’t work unless you attach JV or Nance
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