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re: Trainwreck: Woodstock 99 on Netflix
Posted on 8/8/22 at 12:10 am to VanRIch
Posted on 8/8/22 at 12:10 am to VanRIch
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I thought it was strange how they blamed limp bizkit and that everyone went to see them but in the previous episode they said everyone went to see Korn.
They can blame whoever they want, but I don't know how anyone watched this documentary and comes away blaming anyone other than the promoters.
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Posted on 8/8/22 at 1:54 am to Vols&Shaft83
Yeah it was definitely on the event producers. If you have an event like this you need alot of security and proper sanitary conditions. At the end they were trying to say this is why woke culture is necessary and this wouldn't happen today because of it and white man bad non sense. I do not care what generation if you get a huge crowd of mid 20s and below together with alcohol, drugs, little security, and no rules bad shite is going to happen and it would likely be worse today. Oh and that producer who tried to blame Limp Bizkit and Fred Durst was the one who was most at fault imo. It is the band's job to put on the best show for their fans who spent their money to see them. You can't blame them for playing thier songs. The guy obviously did not know the music most of the bands played and this was just a money grab plain and simple.
Posted on 8/8/22 at 3:17 am to Vols&Shaft83
The crowd turning into an ocean when Korn breaks out Blind blows my mind every time. It’s so terrifying and awesome at the same time. Idk how it didn’t turn into a Travis Scott incident. I guess because it was so packed you really couldn’t fall
Posted on 8/8/22 at 3:41 am to cfish140
No matter how much I loved the music and moshing the pit back then, I don't think I'd ever want to be near a crowd that size. There's just a critical mass point where it feels pretty easy for bad things to happen. Even with the well behaved crowd of the Houston Rodeo, there was a near stampede one night a couple years ago because some idiots thought that balloons popping were gunshots.
Posted on 8/9/22 at 10:30 pm to PowerTool
watched it tonight
I despise the promoters but michael lang really rubbed me wrong
I despise the promoters but michael lang really rubbed me wrong
Posted on 8/10/22 at 9:05 am to imjustafatkid
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They can blame whoever they want, but I don't know how anyone watched this documentary and comes away blaming anyone other than the promoters
Documentaries can be dangerous things. People generally associate that word to be a truthful breakdown of an event, time period, or person. You watch a documentary to learn what really happened. The problem is that they can be easily framed to make you blame whoever they want you to blame.
Watch the HBO documentary and compare it to the Netflix docu-series. Same event, many of the same interview, but you walk away with a completely different understanding of the causes.
Netflix makes you believe that it was a mix of the promoters and acts like Limp Bizkit and RHCP that egged the crowds on. HBO puts almost no emphasis on the promoters and tells the tale of toxic white people and the terror they reak when they gather in masses.
Posted on 8/10/22 at 9:52 am to UnluckyTiger
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John Scher is a true scumbag. He’s like a villain from a movie.
yeah its wild he still takes no accountability for that shite show they lightly touched on it but was someone huge actually supposed to close that backed out or was that just bullshite they floated out there to keep people there through Sunday?
Posted on 8/10/22 at 9:56 am to Saintsisit
I'm aware of how big they were, I'm just saying in a short time span them and most of nu metal went from putting shows on like that to being heavily mocked
Posted on 8/10/22 at 10:22 am to LasVegasTiger
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Now Family Values tour - that was fun.
I worked security for this concert at the Lakefront Arena.
MTV did a special on Woodstock 99 a few years after the concert. Some of the rioters, looters, whatever, where still in jail. I thought the special was funny because all these MTV VJs talking about how their lives were in danger, like they had just stormed the beaches of Normandy or something.
Posted on 8/10/22 at 11:20 am to Vols&Shaft83
quote:There's too much blame to go around to even comprehend
Definitely worth the watch for the music, but *spoiler alert*
in the end they blame the toxic white man
Posted on 8/10/22 at 1:27 pm to BilJ
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John Scher is a true scumbag. He’s like a villain from a movie.
I can't remember which documentary it was, probably the HBO one, but he was asked about the rapes and he just responded something to the effect of yeah, that sounds bad but bro, there were 250k people there! Almost no one got raped when you look at the numbers!
Posted on 8/10/22 at 7:13 pm to Vols&Shaft83
I didn’t see a whole lot of black people in the crowds. If most of the music were hip hop and rap artists, it might have been a different sort of chaos from a different sort of crowd I would guess but who knows.
Posted on 8/10/22 at 7:38 pm to Vols&Shaft83
Watching the Limp Bizkit set was insane. I rewinded that part probably 3-4 times last night just to see the energy of that crowd. Absolutely unbelievable
Posted on 8/10/22 at 9:31 pm to Triple Bogey
weird how they just ignored other bands that were there
rage and then metallica played after limp bizkit, but they acted like limp bizkit closed the show saturday night
rage and then metallica played after limp bizkit, but they acted like limp bizkit closed the show saturday night
Posted on 8/11/22 at 2:18 am to supatigah
Limp bizkit, Kid Rock, and Korn were just super popular at that time.
What's crazy to me is the vendors jacking up prices day by day. I would of burned their shite too if a water bottle went from 4$ Fri to 12 fricking dollars on Sun. You are asking for a riot doing that shite.
What's crazy to me is the vendors jacking up prices day by day. I would of burned their shite too if a water bottle went from 4$ Fri to 12 fricking dollars on Sun. You are asking for a riot doing that shite.
This post was edited on 8/11/22 at 2:23 am
Posted on 8/11/22 at 7:32 am to DaleGribble
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As someone that was Gen X and grew up with Mtv, I always thought that the Mtv Spring Break crowd looked like it was made up of the douchiest of douchebags from places like New Jersey, New York, Boston, and Philladelphia.
Good point - forgot about those spring break specials. That was the gateway drug for MTV to go from playing videos to nonstop Jersey Shore crap.
Posted on 8/11/22 at 8:32 am to MetroAtlantaGatorFan
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Yeah the HBO one was basically muh evil white men.
I had to bite my tongue while watching the HBO doc after they implied within the first 15 minutes that the "toxic white male" epidemic was due to Kurt Cobain dying and not leading us down the right path
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And it was the RHCP who were playing when all the fires started, not Limp Bizkit.
Don't forget Rage Against the Machine burned an American flag during their set - which was common for them back then, but still ... fire.
I'm going to check out the Netflix doc after reading this thread - I was thinking it was just the HBO one with a new name.
Posted on 8/11/22 at 2:25 pm to Bluefin
Posted on 8/11/22 at 2:53 pm to Vols&Shaft83
The number 1 issue, before even the event started, was the lineup.
U brought in 3 groups that get dickhead teenie boppers and 20 year olds into raging.
Woodstock is about peace, love, etc. Not about fighting the power, burning shite don, etc.
Shocked promoters didn't get sued. By fans, girls who got raped, and literally anyone there.
Also waste management. And person supplying water and person checking water should of been sued
U brought in 3 groups that get dickhead teenie boppers and 20 year olds into raging.
Woodstock is about peace, love, etc. Not about fighting the power, burning shite don, etc.
Shocked promoters didn't get sued. By fans, girls who got raped, and literally anyone there.
Also waste management. And person supplying water and person checking water should of been sued
Posted on 8/11/22 at 5:44 pm to SeeeeK
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The number 1 issue, before even the event started, was the lineup.
U brought in 3 groups that get dickhead teenie boppers and 20 year olds into raging.
Woodstock is about peace, love, etc. Not about fighting the power, burning shite don, etc.
Name 3 rock bands from that era that would have been equal or bigger draws than Limp Bizkit, Korn, and Rage (I assume these are groups you're referring to).
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