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re: Trainwreck: Woodstock 99 on Netflix
Posted on 8/11/22 at 10:06 pm to supatigah
Posted on 8/11/22 at 10:06 pm to supatigah
Always disliked Korn as dork/loser rock but maybe I was just a few years too old for it. Regardless, Korn rocked the F out of that place.
Nice coverage of Bush having to follow Korn’s set. Bush had some tone problems for the first few songs iirc but had some real cool moments as well
Nice coverage of Bush having to follow Korn’s set. Bush had some tone problems for the first few songs iirc but had some real cool moments as well
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Posted on 8/11/22 at 10:35 pm to Havoc
For an even better overall viewing experience you could pause this when they get to each set and watch the full set on YT. I think most of them are.
Posted on 8/11/22 at 10:40 pm to Vols&Shaft83
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in the end they blame the toxic white man
They were behaving like all the people I ever saw on every MTV show.
Posted on 8/11/22 at 10:43 pm to Vols&Shaft83
I think the poster is saying, you don't recreate an original Woodstock vibe with angst nu-metal bands.
Peace, love, and happiness is definitely not to be expected with Rage, Manson, and Korn.
Great fricking lineup for the time.. but call it voodoo fest and give the mosh pit some space.
If they wanted original Woodstock vibes then it would be 90's jam bands, Dave Matthew's, I dunno.. phish, string cheese, etc.
Have bowie (as ziggy) , Fleetwood Mac reunion, probably lenny Kravitz at the time..
Peace, love, and happiness is definitely not to be expected with Rage, Manson, and Korn.
Great fricking lineup for the time.. but call it voodoo fest and give the mosh pit some space.
If they wanted original Woodstock vibes then it would be 90's jam bands, Dave Matthew's, I dunno.. phish, string cheese, etc.
Have bowie (as ziggy) , Fleetwood Mac reunion, probably lenny Kravitz at the time..
Posted on 8/12/22 at 6:58 am to stelly1025
The producers had no sense of the culture that they were dealing with. As a kid from Arkansas I was floored the first time I was exposed to prevailing Northeast popular culture around that time. Just completely depraved. Couple 250k of those kids with terrible conditions and a volatile lineup and you’d have to have been a fool to be surprised.
Side note, I had almost forgotten how massive Korn was for a hot minute. That was a very specific time in American culture. The shift was palpable.
Side note, I had almost forgotten how massive Korn was for a hot minute. That was a very specific time in American culture. The shift was palpable.
This post was edited on 8/12/22 at 7:07 am
Posted on 8/12/22 at 7:19 am to TigerFanatic99
quote:The guy seemed like a scumbag but he was right about this. Statistically speaking, at a 3 day event filled with with 250k college aged kids, a couple of heinous crimes are a given.
I can't remember which documentary it was, probably the HBO one, but he was asked about the rapes and he just responded something to the effect of yeah, that sounds bad but bro, there were 250k people there! Almost no one got raped when you look at the numbers!
Posted on 8/12/22 at 7:20 am to beaverfever
What is interesting is they had a woodstock in 94 that did not have any of these issues. Seems like that was close to the original as far as the vibe.
John Scher said in the very beginning, that they did not make any money off the 1994 woodstock. To me that is what doomed WS 99 from the start. They were determined to make money no matter what
John Scher said in the very beginning, that they did not make any money off the 1994 woodstock. To me that is what doomed WS 99 from the start. They were determined to make money no matter what
Posted on 8/12/22 at 8:27 am to vilma4prez
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If they wanted original Woodstock vibes then it would be 90's jam bands, Dave Matthew's, I dunno.. phish, string cheese, etc.
Have bowie (as ziggy) , Fleetwood Mac reunion, probably lenny Kravitz at the time..
you are describing Bonnaroo
Posted on 8/12/22 at 8:45 am to SeeeeK
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Woodstock is about peace, love, etc. Not about fighting the power, burning shite don, etc.
Shocked promoters didn't get sued. By fans, girls who got raped, and literally anyone there.
The festival is built on a lie that woodstock 69 went well. It was an absolute shite show.
To think there wasn't rapes at woodstock 69 is a completely lie. They just called it free love or whatever hippy bull shite. Those people were degenerates back then.
a big difference is they were all tripping acid and shrooms, only drinking the booze they brought. Woodstock 99 was fueled by x double stakes
This post was edited on 8/12/22 at 9:24 am
Posted on 8/12/22 at 9:43 am to Vols&Shaft83
1999 was the peak of america. it's been downhill ever since.
This post was edited on 8/12/22 at 9:43 am
Posted on 8/12/22 at 9:46 am to Pisco
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2. The DMX song in question was the intro off his second album.
i first remember hearing this song during any given sunday. i still throw it on my daily playlist.
Posted on 8/12/22 at 10:46 am to 1999
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1999 was the peak of america. it's been downhill ever since.
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Posted on 8/12/22 at 12:42 pm to Dire Wolf
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The festival is built on a lie that Woodstock 69 went well. It was an absolute shite show.
HBO touched on this for about 30 seconds. They noted clearly that Woodstock69 is remembered quite differently than the shitshow that it actually way.
Nostalgia is a weird thing.
Posted on 8/12/22 at 1:45 pm to Dire Wolf
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If they wanted original Woodstock vibes then it would be 90's jam bands, Dave Matthew's, I dunno.. phish, string cheese, etc. Have bowie (as ziggy) , Fleetwood Mac reunion, probably lenny Kravitz at the time..
Add in Mighty Mighty Bosstones, but ska had already started to fall off by that point.
If I think about it the ‘90s were probably the last truly dynamic musical decade. Among teenagers throughout the 90’s, listening to grunge (early 90’s) ska (mid 90’s), and nu metal (late 90’s) represents seismic shifts in music. But fast forward a few decades, was the music of 2012 that much different than the music of 2019?
I can still walk into a bar today and hear a Nirvana song from 1992….and it not be a special occasion (30 years ago). There wasn’t a single bar you could walk into in 1998, listen to a song from 1978 (so only 20 years), and not think “is it retro night?”
This post was edited on 8/12/22 at 4:30 pm
Posted on 8/12/22 at 1:53 pm to BRIllini07
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Among teenagers throughout the 90’s, listening to grunge (early 90’s) ska (mid 90’s), and nu metal (late 90’s) represents seismic shifts in music.
Also saw the transformation of gangsta rap into mainstream suburban pop music, which probably left a longer legacy than grunge or ska. And, not to forget the skater "punk" music that took off in that era. A teenager who listened to whatever was popular on the radio in the 90's was exposed to a wiiiiide variety.
Posted on 8/12/22 at 7:17 pm to Dire Wolf
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The festival is built on a lie that woodstock 69 went well. It was an absolute shite show. To think there wasn't rapes at woodstock 69 is a completely lie. They just called it free love or whatever hippy bull shite. Those people were degenerates back then.
Lots of ODs as well.
Posted on 8/12/22 at 10:20 pm to Vols&Shaft83
I wonder how much money Lang & Schuer made after the event. Lang's demeanor and attitude during his late years interview made me realize that he never gave a shite or showed remorse for that disaster of event.
Posted on 8/13/22 at 12:50 am to Split2874
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What is interesting is they had a woodstock in 94 that did not have any of these issues. Seems like that was close to the original as far as the vibe.
Weather ruined that one. It poured for almost the whole time. Bands were getting pelted with mud. The rain kept things subdued and the line up was wasn’t nearly as flammable.
Just finished it and based on the attitude of the producers they had to have made some good money because neither have a shite. They put a lot of attonerys’ children though college that’s for sure.
There was an effort to show flee’s junk whenever possible.
This post was edited on 8/13/22 at 12:56 am
Posted on 8/13/22 at 2:32 am to Pvt Hudson
Yeah jersey shore and all started from a spring vreak spin off. They had a "summer share" show In Jersey way before jersey shore. Tommy Cheeseballs or something like that was the main guy.
Posted on 8/13/22 at 2:39 am to PowerTool
Yeah the 90s started with the remnants of hair metal and the rise of Gangster Rap. Within two years grunge and G-funk Rap were the top choices. But then you had tons of soft rock bands in the 90s. Ska was big then nu- metal.
The 90s had a great blend of music.
Like someone else said. I can't think of any major shifts in the last few years. Not since Scene over took Emo which overtook Numetal.
The 90s had a great blend of music.
Like someone else said. I can't think of any major shifts in the last few years. Not since Scene over took Emo which overtook Numetal.
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