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re: Trainwreck: Woodstock 99 on Netflix

Posted on 8/13/22 at 11:22 pm to
Posted by 632627
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Posted on 8/13/22 at 11:22 pm to
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Yeah the 90s started with the remnants of hair metal and the rise of Gangster Rap. Within two years grunge and G-funk Rap were the top choices. But then you had tons of soft rock bands in the 90s. Ska was big then nu- metal. The 90s had a great blend of music


There’s been some good discussions about this on the music board.

The 90s had, by far, the most diversity amongst mainstream/popular music.

Some posters earlier in this thread were questioning the popularity of limp bizkit. In 1999, the biggest musical acts were Eminem, limp bizkit and Backstreet Boys.

Limp bizkit faded into obscurity pretty quickly, but there was a reason they were playing the main stage on Saturday night.
Posted by schatman
Montana
Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 8/16/22 at 8:22 am to
Yeah- looking back, popular music in 99 was a shitshow. Mostly garbage. Hard to believe that KoRn and Limp were as big as they were- it was crap back then and it's crap today.

Seems like back then it was either Korn/Limp/Kid Rock, or garbage like NSYNC and Backstreet Boys. No wonder the overall atmosphere was lousy
Posted by 3nOut
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Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 8/16/22 at 10:41 am to
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Yeah- looking back, popular music in 99 was a shitshow. Mostly garbage. Hard to believe that KoRn and Limp were as big as they were- it was crap back then and it's crap today.


Most of my memorable youth is the 90s but there’s very little music I like from that era outside of Grunge and Rap’s early acts. When my kids talk about listening to “my music” it’s usually stuff from the 70s and 80s.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
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Posted on 8/16/22 at 10:49 am to
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Yeah- looking back, popular music in 99 was a shitshow. Mostly garbage. Hard to believe that KoRn and Limp were as big as they were- it was crap back then and it's crap today.


Yet, better than popular music today.
Posted by SmackDaniels
Gulf Breeze, FL
Member since Mar 2007
15134 posts
Posted on 8/16/22 at 10:56 am to
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in the end they blame the toxic white man


Yeah, well try watching the HBO one they did on 99. Talk about all things #whitemanbad Holly shite! Purple fatties talking about how bad white people are. They even had where they made people racist because the crowd was singing DMX lyrics back to him.
Posted by 3nOut
Central Texas, TX
Member since Jan 2013
28807 posts
Posted on 8/16/22 at 11:00 am to
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Yet, better than popular music today.




i think that's some nostalgia bias.

the 90s gave us Barbie Girl, I'm Blue, Who let the dogs out, Macarena, and MMMBop.

Terrible time in music that we all partook in.

Posted by SmackDaniels
Gulf Breeze, FL
Member since Mar 2007
15134 posts
Posted on 8/16/22 at 11:07 am to
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Limp Bizkit was huge at the time.
Metallica was too. They had a tour with Kid Rock and Korn and Staind that was pretty good.


One of the young organizers tried to speak up and say it was probably not good idea to book Limp Bizkit, Rage and then Metallica all back to back to back but he was told to sit down and shutup.

And in both docs, next to no mention of a band literally called RAGE AGAINST THE MACHINE!!! Talk about a band that has been known to break shite. They lit the American Flag on fire that night. But no, not one single mention of them because half the band is minorities and on the "right" side of the political aisle.
This post was edited on 8/16/22 at 11:41 am
Posted by gameovergt
Orange Park, FL via Stevenson, AL
Member since Nov 2010
1963 posts
Posted on 8/16/22 at 11:08 am to
Seen Korn 5 times. 3 times at Rockville here in Florida & they deliver! Limp Bizkit is a joke even here in Jacksonville. However, MTV & the promoters are at fault for security/conditions at Woodstock.
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
36581 posts
Posted on 8/16/22 at 11:23 am to
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The promoter tried to speak up and say it was probably not good idea to book Limp Bizkit, Rage and then Metallica all back to back to back but he was told to sit down and shutup.



the whole schedule is bizarre

LINK

Sherly Crow then DMX? who thought that was a good idea

This is such a odd schedule of acts for a stage
Moe>Buckcherry>Insane clown> P-Funk


This post was edited on 8/16/22 at 11:24 am
Posted by Funky Tide 8
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Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 8/16/22 at 11:25 am to
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i think that's some nostalgia bias.



I think that there is good music out there today, but mostly not on the radio. I think that its undebatable that popular rock music is all but dead. It has no edge. There isn't anything "dangerous" about it at all. Which is what rock n roll is.
Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
35893 posts
Posted on 8/16/22 at 11:25 am to
Not watching this propaganda
Posted by SmackDaniels
Gulf Breeze, FL
Member since Mar 2007
15134 posts
Posted on 8/16/22 at 11:44 am to
The HBO doc was talking about how the promoters, musicians, the crowd kept encouraging and exploiting women to get naked and how disgusting it was.

All while HBO found EVERY single naked woman or "girl" they could find in that crowd and air it in their documentary.

I was thinking you hypocritical scumbags, how many of these girls are underage? You have no idea.
Posted by Bert Macklin FBI
Quantico
Member since May 2013
8891 posts
Posted on 8/16/22 at 12:26 pm to
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Never understood why Durst got blamed for that shite.


His own words leaving the stage were "I have never done anything like that before...Its not our fault."

Translation: I stirred up that crowd into the biggest frenzy I could but their destruction isn't my fault.
Posted by Bert Macklin FBI
Quantico
Member since May 2013
8891 posts
Posted on 8/16/22 at 12:37 pm to
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When people start acting like animals, they should be shot. You won’t have to shoot many for it to stop.


The proof that it was pretty much all the promoters fault is that as soon as the state troopers showed up, the crowd dispersed. If they had hired actual security and shown ANY semblance of being in control that weekend, it might not have gone as bad no matter how neglected the patrons felt.

IMO, It was the combination of anger created from the shitty situation AND the lord of the flies level of anarchy allowed that created the riots.
Posted by Bert Macklin FBI
Quantico
Member since May 2013
8891 posts
Posted on 8/16/22 at 12:58 pm to
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I don’t think it was ok but when you are body surfing things get touched for sure.


They had so much footage of girls being felt up by strangers when they were on shoulders and guys literally trying to rip the clothes off of crowd surfers.

Like you said, some accidental touching happens when crowd surfing but I don't think anyone accidentally grabs a girls top and rips it away.
Posted by StrongOffer
Member since Sep 2020
4289 posts
Posted on 8/16/22 at 12:59 pm to
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the 90s gave us Barbie Girl, I'm Blue, Who let the dogs out, Macarena, and MMMBop.

Terrible time in music that we all partook in.

Did you really take the worst 5 songs and make that the standard for the decade? The 90's gave us astronomically better music than past decade has. Not even close.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
25415 posts
Posted on 8/16/22 at 2:31 pm to
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His own words leaving the stage were "I have never done anything like that before...Its not our fault."

Translation: I stirred up that crowd into the biggest frenzy I could but their destruction isn't my fault.



Also his own words while on the stage, that not once is mentioned:
quote:

"People are getting hurt. Don't let anybody get hurt. But I don't think you should mellow out. That's what Alanis Morissette had you motherfrickers do. If someone falls, pick 'em up. We already let the negative energy out. Now we wanna let out the positive energy"
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
25415 posts
Posted on 8/16/22 at 2:52 pm to
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If they wanted original Woodstock vibes then it would be 90's jam bands, Dave Matthew's, I dunno.. phish, string cheese, etc.




Dave Mathews Band played at Woodstock 99.
Posted by JDPndahizzy
JDP
Member since Nov 2013
6420 posts
Posted on 8/16/22 at 3:16 pm to
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The HBO doc was talking about how the promoters, musicians, the crowd kept encouraging and exploiting women to get naked and how disgusting it was.


It felt like the Netflix version had more nudity. But I haven't seen the HBO version in a while.
Posted by 3nOut
Central Texas, TX
Member since Jan 2013
28807 posts
Posted on 8/16/22 at 3:56 pm to
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Did you really take the worst 5 songs and make that the standard for the decade? The 90's gave us astronomically better music than past decade has. Not even close.


Oh no, today is insanely worse. But there was a LOT of terrible music in the mid to late 90s.
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