re: Napoleon is basically anti-French propaganda

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It's sad that so many of the longtime M/TV board posters have retired and others that barely post at but it's easy to see why.

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Aye.

I stopped posting here for quite a long time myself. I'll just let it go and chime in discussing MTV.

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I bet you think it’s fine for all nations except western democracies.

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I would bet you don't understand what 'ethnonationalism' means as a political term and can't differentiate it from the forms of nationalism practiced in polities which were once imperial states (such as Britain and France), leftist nationalist movements (which were based on communist principles and often eschewed ethnic specific nationalism, except for a few examples like the Khymer Rouge) and ethnonationalism itself.

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Are you upset by the “ethno-nationalism” of Japan, China

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I mean, the Empire of Japan was a pretty terrible yes. Do you want me to write a rebuttal of the Nippon Kaigi too? Do you want me to say that the Global Times is bad too?

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South Africa

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You understand what organization in 20th-century South African politics was ethnonationalist, right?

In short, ethnonationalism is and has been a terrible ideology, and will continue to be, whether it is in the West or the East, whether it be from the RSS and the Hinduvata to the Grey Wolves to the MRND to the MLN to whatever organizations espouse these ideas in the West. Sorry you are too stupid to understand anything. Next time, try a more thoughtful rebuttal instead of emoting nonsense.

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 post on here probably more than any of the other boards, but this board has went downhill over the past 5 years or so. It used to be hands down the best board on the site for just good, fun debates. It's basically just a mini poli board now.

It's sad that so many of the longtime M/TV board posters have retired and others that barely post at but it's easy to see why. Honestly it could go back to being a great board if it got rid of a handful of posters that turn pretty much everything in to a poli debate.

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I would assume a movie like Napaleon would have plenty ofnpolitical themes and undertones seeing how he influenced history through his politics and war.

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In fairness, you cannot deny that politics has invaded movies (and all other forms of media) in a new and much more pronounced way in contemporary society.

It’s impossible to discuss most movies without politics being part of the discussion

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I mean, it's a movie about Napoleon. Politics was a given

I thought Andrew Roberts’ biography of Napoleon was pretty good. In fact if there’s a criticism of it it’s that it is a bit fawning about Napoleon. It is pretty exhaustive but a great read.

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I finally saw this movie yesterday. Honestly, I wish I hadn't.

Not only is it a bad Napoleon movie, it's a bad movie, period. I don't know how the hell you make a boring arse movie about one of the world's most interesting people in history, but Ridley Scott pulled it off.

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I liked the movie, but went in with the thought that Scott wasn't going to make a very accurate movie and to just try to enjoy it for whatever it was going to be.

That said, theres a LOT of material to cover when discussing Napoleon, so much so that 2.5 hours means you're probably barely touching some things and the movie probably feels jam packed. But it really felt kind of.... empty?... in spots IMO. I get that he wanted to tell the story revolving around his relationship with Josephine, but I think the relationship parts kind of strangled out other things that were worth delving into.

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Master and Commander is a very accurate, historically authentic film.

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It's based on novels featuring fictional characters, written by an author who said he wanted a historically accurate context but wasn't worried about moving events. Sounds mad historic.

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Metatron responds to Ridley Scott statement.

One of the most knowledgeable YouTubers out there.

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This is how I feel about it. I thought it was good and I didn’t get the feeling it painted Napolean in an unflattering way just out of the ordinary in the way he conducted himself.

In fact, I left the movie blown away at his military genius and would like to learn more about him.

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Totally agree. I actually thought the Austerlitz scene was one of the coolest things I've seen on the big screen in a while. I also wanted to learn more about Napoleon as soon as I got home.

Yeah, I wasn't really into Phoenix's performance, and the film skimmed over a ton, but Scott straight up said the theatrical release would do that. The 4 hour cut that's coming to Apple TV+ may be a different, better experience, like Kingdom Of Heaven was.

If Scott's whole purpose was to create propaganda, he could've been much harsher, or easier, on Napoleon, but I'll let others whine more about that. I thought it was an interesting film, and I enjoyed it.

You guys think you’re so great just because you have boats!