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re: Game of Thrones S8E5 "The Bells" is officially the worst reviewed GOT episode yet
Posted on 5/14/19 at 1:41 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 5/14/19 at 1:41 pm to SlowFlowPro
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SlowFlowPro
Bingo.
The show built up over the seasons that she has the capability for truly evil things and truly benevolent things. Her character has always had the potential to go both ways with the amount of power she was going to be able to wield with her Dragons. That is not what is being questioned. Yes the show developed that she has the potential to go mad. Nobody is questioning that going mad is out of character for her.
The problem people have is that even in this season, she still showed good and bad. She was not slipping into madness. She was still where she had been the entire series. Then she completely loses it over about one episode.
If people want to disagree that they could not have portrayed her slip any better over the past episode and a half, that's fine and we can just disagree. If you're going to criticize our point though, at least demonstrate you can actually understand what we are arguing. None of them have seemed to do that. They are still trying to beat us over the head with the fact that we were given hints of this outcome throughout the show. None of the posters in this thread are arguing otherwise.
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Posted on 5/14/19 at 1:42 pm to SammyTiger
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Like what?
Maybe an actual descent rather than just having her fall off of a cliff?
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Get ducked guy
Posted on 5/14/19 at 1:42 pm to SlowFlowPro
What people are forgetting is that unless you want the story ends with Mad QueenDany ruling you need someone in the room to kill her.
Posted on 5/14/19 at 1:42 pm to SammyTiger
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Like what?
actually, you know, showing her increased moral flexibility (especially with respect to innocent civilians) ?
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Maybe all those good advisors slowly losing any sway they have with her?
this is much more bad writing and forcing this point than being an organic stoy. it fricks up Dany AND Tyrion in the process
Posted on 5/14/19 at 1:43 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
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The problem people have is that even in this season, she still showed good and bad. She was not slipping into madness. She was still where she had been the entire series. Then she completely loses it over about one episode.
Yes.
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If people want to disagree that they could not have portrayed her slip any better over the past episode and a half, that's fine and we can just disagree. If you're going to criticize our point though, at least demonstrate you can actually understand what we are arguing. None of them have seemed to do that. They are still trying to beat us over the head with the fact that we were given hints of this outcome throughout the show. None of the posters in this thread are arguing otherwise.
Yesssss
Posted on 5/14/19 at 1:44 pm to SlowFlowPro
They did that. Like I said Idk how this story works is she just slowly murdera more and more civilians.
Once you burn your first innocent village to the ground your a villlian.
Once you burn your first innocent village to the ground your a villlian.
Posted on 5/14/19 at 1:44 pm to SlowFlowPro
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a good chunk of the "evidence" posted on the last page with any relevance was more to shite on Tyrion (which was a choice D/D have made that may make less sense than Dany's sudden heel turn last ep)
it also ignores things like dany chaining up her dragons in Mereen b/c ONE kid gets killed
Cool cool. One thing in the "good guy" column that didn't serve her self-interests. The dragons that got chained up are dead now. The one that remained free, and was the one to burn the child (right?), still lives. Maybe that's coincidence, maybe it's not.
It also ignores her calmly watching as the only family she's ever known gets molten gold poured on his face and down his throat.
What else you got for the good guy column? Freeing slaves that became her army of worshipers used to conquer?
You're most definitely correct on how poorly written Tyrion has become, though.
Posted on 5/14/19 at 1:46 pm to MickeyLikesDags21
As I've been watching this season, I've been thinking "Wow, this is not the first time Dany has been ruthless, but it is the first time she's been stupid." Basically acting like a child about everything. That's been the biggest difference for me. Her turn to madness was not surprising to me, but just dumb how it played out.
On top of everything else, the consistency of other characters has been all over the place. The handling of the dragons. So much has just played out terribly and stupid. That's on DD.
On top of everything else, the consistency of other characters has been all over the place. The handling of the dragons. So much has just played out terribly and stupid. That's on DD.
Posted on 5/14/19 at 1:46 pm to SammyTiger
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They did that.
no they really didn't, especially with innocents
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Like I said Idk how this story works is she just slowly murdera more and more civilians
why don't you? that's how it happens in real life. that's what happened with her father
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Once you burn your first innocent village to the ground your a villlian.
that's where good writing comes in. breaking bad made an antihero out of a villain pretty quickly
you act like this is unheard of
Posted on 5/14/19 at 1:51 pm to Sasquatch Smash
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The dragons that got chained up are dead now. The one that remained free, and was the one to burn the child (right?), still lives. Maybe that's coincidence, maybe it's not.
those 2 dragons died via some of the most retarded writing in major television history, so let's go with "not a coincidence"
it's not like they would have survived had they been allowed the freedom in Mereen to escape contrived plot devices, which are why they died
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It also ignores her calmly watching as the only family she's ever known gets molten gold poured on his face and down his throat.
there was a lot of development to get to that point. her brother was shown to be a weak, spineless guy who ruled nothing but felt entitled to rule. during that same time period, Dany began to understand what true power and ruling was like. hence "fire cannot kill the dragon" (after Viserys kept claiming he was the dragon. it was self realization that developed over like 6-7 straight episodes).
we had 2 to get to the Mad Queen
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Freeing slaves that became her army of worshipers used to conquer?
only applies to the Unsullied and not all the other slaves she freed in Slaver's Bay
where are all these examples of her moral flexibility with innocent civilians? the best you're going to steal from the internet is the group of maids trying to imprison here at Vaes Dothrak
Posted on 5/14/19 at 1:51 pm to RB10
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Yesssss
What do ya know, it took someone else to make what you're trying to say make sense.
Posted on 5/14/19 at 1:53 pm to SlowFlowPro
She’s been going down a dark path for literally 6 seasons to become a full blown villain/tyrant.
So when she finally snaps people are somehow surprised?
So when she finally snaps people are somehow surprised?
Posted on 5/14/19 at 1:53 pm to Adam Banks
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And then when they don’t go to fight for a foreign invader she burns them all alive including the high born Tarlys despite recommendations from her advisors not to. It’s made clear that this sort of thing is WAY outside the norm in the books. It is 100% “known” and expected that at most Ned would get sent to the wall if not kept imprisoned. The Greyjoy’s were sent back to the iron Islands and Theon raised by the starks. They weren’t executed unarmed.
Posted on 5/14/19 at 1:53 pm to SlowFlowPro
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why don't you? that's how it happens in real life. that's what happened with her father
Her father was already king and didn’t have Dragons.
From a story standpoint how do you kill evil Queen Dany if you can’t get to her?
Dany was always battling her nature and usually needed to be told to do the right thing.
Once she stopped listening and stopped thinking she could rule through love, why not make a fricking statement?
Who the frick is gonna mess with her now?
This post was edited on 5/14/19 at 1:56 pm
Posted on 5/14/19 at 1:54 pm to Sasquatch Smash
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What else you got for the good guy column? Freeing slaves that became her army of worshipers used to conquer
Stopped the Dothraki from raping. Spared way too many of the maesters. Took down the crucified slaves. Spared one of the three maesters who tried to reslave Meereen. Chained her dragons. Offered mercy to the Tarlys that they thrice rejected. Went north of the wall to save Jon. Let Jon mine dragon glass at no benefit to herself. Went to save the north. Forgave Jorah. Accepted Tyrion.
She hasn’t been perfect but to act like she hasn’t had a kind heart most of the series in the middle of her moments of fire and blood is beyond stupid. She’s been a tender character the majority of the time.
Her breaking bad towards the throne has been as well but more recently... however bad D&D portrayed it.
Posted on 5/14/19 at 1:54 pm to iwyLSUiwy
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What do ya know, it took someone else to make what you're trying to say make sense.
Me telling you several pages back that you're arguing against a point no one had made wasn't good enough? I needed to sit you down and explain it like you're a child as well?
This post was edited on 5/14/19 at 1:55 pm
Posted on 5/14/19 at 1:55 pm to monsterballads
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So when she finally snaps people are somehow surprised?
No one was surprised
Posted on 5/14/19 at 1:55 pm to SlowFlowPro
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there was a lot of development to get to that point.
And now we have run out of development episodes. It’s a TV show telling a story on a time constraint.
Developed over 6 seasons and now her true character has come into fruition.
She is what she always had the potential to be: the mad queen
Posted on 5/14/19 at 1:56 pm to 3nOut
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Stopped the Dothraki from raping. Spared way too many of the maesters. Took down the crucified slaves. Spared one of the three maesters who tried to reslave Meereen. Chained her dragons. Offered mercy to the Tarlys that they thrice rejected. Went north of the wall to save Jon. Let Jon mine dragon glass at no benefit to herself. Went to save the north. Forgave Jorah. Accepted Tyrion.
She hasn’t been perfect but to act like she hasn’t had a kind heart most of the series in the middle of her moments of fire and blood is beyond stupid. She’s been a tender character the majority of the time.
Her breaking bad towards the throne has been as well but more recently... however bad D&D portrayed it.
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3nOut
Gets it.
Posted on 5/14/19 at 1:57 pm to monsterballads
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So when she finally snaps people are somehow surprised?
Who has said it was a surprise?
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