re: Game of Thrones S8E5 "The Bells" is officially the worst reviewed GOT episode yet

So look at this

Has she ever met a problem she didn’t solve with Fire?
Any problem?

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It is made clear that not all of the nobles she crucified were in on the previous stuff. So yes innocent yes civilians

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they were nobles in a city whose economy was based off slavery. they were not innocent nor civilians (as they ruled the city)

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And it is way outside the moral norm in Westeros to do what she did

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irrelevant

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These were unarmed surrendered soldiers and prisoners of war.

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and they were given a choice, whether or not it was the norm. it wasn't evil and it was borderline cruel

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If you're going to criticize our point though, at least demonstrate you can actually understand what we are arguing. None of them have seemed to do that. They are still trying to beat us over the head with the fact that we were given hints of this outcome throughout the show. None of the posters in this thread are arguing otherwise.

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It is hard to understand what you are arguing, because what you are asking is for a logical sequence of someone going crazy.

And further, by suggesting that she has always been truly capable of evil things, you are admitting that this craziness has always been there. In the real world people with mental issues can and often do suppress them. You see their craziness in episodes, rather than just slowly turning cuckoo.

So, it might be tough to see eye to eye on this subject as it pertains to how abruptly a person turns crazy.

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it also ignores things like dany chaining up her dragons in Mereen b/c ONE kid gets killed

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And after that she was willing to "reduce the city to dirt." Regardless, the show and books are lauded for the moral ambiguity, if not moral conflict, of their characters, but people seem to want them to be clearly righteous of clearly evil. I don't think Dany is some evil maniac who enjoys murdering innocents. That would be counter to her character. At the same time, her character has shown her to be driven by a self-interest based solely on birthright entitlement. Furthermore, it has shown not only a willingness to resort to ruthlessness, but her actually acting on that.

At times she's been more righteous than most, and at times she's more selfish and ruthless than others as well.

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also most of the evidence shows a frustration about winning, which was created by false conflict the past couple episodes

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Maybe the accuracy of the scorpions taking out a dragon was a bit forced, but even that was at least due to a surprise attack, and she's not some trained Air Force Pilot going against weaponry she's aware of with radar to help eliminate a surprise. Regardless, what else was forced? Jorah died in a battle with the dead, the same battle that people complained didn't result in enough human deaths. Missandei's death was maybe dramatic but would you have preferred she had just drowned after the attack instead? OR was a person dying in war altogether just forced.

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killing a million people and literally destroying the capitol only makes sense if ruling (not winning) was the difficulty (which was what had been shown before)

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For all of the criticism of the "bad writing," the writers have been establishing the difficulty of "ruling" since she got there. Between the reluctance if not outright refusal to accept her, the ruthlessness of her enemies, loss of advisers, distrust of her remaining advisers, and most importantly, Jon's claim to the birthright she believed was her's, etc., the difficulty to rule as an unwelcomed conqueror with powerful enemies and better claims to her power has been reinforced a lot.

It's one thing to argue it's forced, but to say it doesn't make sense is just ignoring the details.

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Not a book reader I see

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We're in a thread about an episode, aren't we?

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It is made clear in book one that a noble in his circumstances would be treated to exile to essos or the wall. Heck some even lesser sentences see Balon Greyjoy. She executes unarmed POW nobles.

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What does any of this have to do with your notion that her executing people was "out of the norm" when the reality is it was exactly the norm?

Hell, Jon executed Janos Slynt for talking shite

EVIL MAN

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No, i'm arguing for a better written sequence of someone going crazy.

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It’s been building up for 6 seasons. She finally had her “frick this” moment

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but even that was at least due to a surprise attack

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that was more forced than the scorpions

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Regardless, what else was forced?

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Missandei. that whole mini story was incredibly stupid (and out of the same issues of Rhaegel dying)

the trip north of the wall as well. all around stupid, ultimately pointless, and it cost a dragon

lots of the battles in Westeros were pretty contrived as well, just so she didn't seem OP (which became worthless last episode when we saw what one dragon could do).

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the writers have been establishing the difficulty of "ruling" since she got there.

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but she hasn't ruled a day

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It was always predictable. You guys can't simultaneously argue they've been building it up for the entire series while also arguing if they extended her actual fall into madness it would have been too predictable

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Its completely fair to argue that and pretty simple. I didnt think it was predictable. There was plenty to show that she was a good person and enough to show that she also could be mad.

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I get it, you don't think they could have done any better. I on the other hand think how they finally made her snap was not well done or well thought out. It could have been done much better. It is really that simple. I'm not sure why this is difficult for you to get.

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I get it, I was making a case why I thought it was done well and you were doing the oposite. I think the previous post was the first time i've replied to you because it was the first reasonable answer. rb10 is a jumbled mess that thinks he made things clear when all the downvotes probably should have told him it wasnt.