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re: Is northern/ cold weather football dead?
Posted on 12/30/18 at 12:38 pm to Crowknowsbest
Posted on 12/30/18 at 12:38 pm to Crowknowsbest
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Midwestern schools have a long-term recruiting problem. Ohio State should be fine but not sure about anyone other than them.
Ohio State is fine. The state is one of the most talent rich, fertile recruiting grounds in the country. Urban also laid the blueprint for them to spot recruit in southern states and, unlike most of the rest of the Big Ten, to focus on speed as opposed to overly focusing on size.
However, the programs with long term recruiting gap issues lurking are schools like Nebraska, Iowa, and the Michigan schools. When you don't have a good recruiting footprint, it's difficult to sustain success if you're aiming for Ohio leftovers or trying to convince southern kids to take a take a chance on you over an SEC offer.
This post was edited on 12/30/18 at 12:39 pm
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Posted on 12/30/18 at 12:54 pm to Feral
It's even more pronounced now that Stoops at Kentucky has a heavy focus on Ohio kids. The other school that should (and recently is) recruit well is Penn State. They're starting to get those DelMarVa kids they used to get and they're hitting New Jersey hard once again.
Posted on 12/30/18 at 12:57 pm to goldenbadger08
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Maybe they should start having some of the big bowl games in cold weather to even the playing field.
Maybe people should quit living in miserably cold as frick locations or quit bitching about no one sane wanting to put up with that bullshite.
Posted on 12/30/18 at 1:01 pm to RidiculousHype
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Btw- who knew Rutgers was such a sleeping giant?
b10 officials who let them in.
Me.
Posted on 12/30/18 at 1:12 pm to ReauxlTide222
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They do
Yep. So getting into a playoff system where some of the games are played up north shouldn't be an issue.
Posted on 12/30/18 at 1:13 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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Maybe people should quit living in miserably cold as frick locations or quit bitching about no one sane wanting to put up with that bullshite.
Snow > whatever you call San Antonio weather
Posted on 12/30/18 at 1:14 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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Yep. So getting into a playoff system where some of the games are played up north shouldn't be an issue.
If you hope they are ever playing playoff games in Northern non-dome locations, you are going to be sorely disappointed for the rest of your life.
Posted on 12/30/18 at 1:22 pm to WaltTeevens
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If you hope they are ever playing playoff games in Northern non-dome locations, you are going to be sorely disappointed for the rest of your life.
Not likely. Eventually, playoff expansion will include home games. Don't fool yourself into believing otherwise.
Posted on 12/30/18 at 1:36 pm to Dogfish
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LSU and even Kentucky are on an upswing.
Posted on 12/30/18 at 1:48 pm to VABuckeye
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Ohio State recruits nationally in addition to having great talent in-state. The rest of the B1G not so much.
This used to be the case with Nebraska and Michigan back in the 90s. They would always come and pluck skill players from Louisiana or other states that produce a lot of speed.
Posted on 12/30/18 at 1:51 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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Not likely. Eventually, playoff expansion will include home games. Don't fool yourself into believing otherwise.
Agreed.
If they expand the CFP to 8 teams, the first round would likely consist of home games for the higher seeded teams, with the round of 4 staying with the bowl rotation.
Posted on 12/30/18 at 1:58 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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Maybe they should start having some of the big bowl games in cold weather to even the playing field.
Maybe people should quit living in miserably cold as frick locations or quit bitching about no one sane wanting to put up with that bullshite.
Yeah it’s a real head scratcher why the first bowls were the started in Pasadena, New Orleans, Miami and Dallas and no one started the Steel Bowl in Pittsburgh or the Rubber Bowl in Akron
Also where has the population shifted over the last 50 years ? 50% of the people from Cleveland didn’t want to live there, let alone play a bowl there
This post was edited on 12/30/18 at 1:59 pm
Posted on 12/30/18 at 2:04 pm to VerlanderBEAST
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I would like to have seen Clenson play ND in Yankee Stadium.
frick that shite.
Football should never be played in baseball stadiums in this day and age. MetLife or GTFO.
Posted on 12/30/18 at 2:17 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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Snow > whatever you call San Antonio weather
Paradise. Idyllic.
Not that I would expect a heathen hailing from Hades to have any appreciation for such
Posted on 12/30/18 at 2:18 pm to H-Town Tiger
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50% of the people from Cleveland didn’t want to live there, let alone play a bowl there
To be fair, no one wants to live in the "state" of ohio.
You're just kinda stuck there or bribed into staying until something better comes along
Posted on 12/30/18 at 2:47 pm to TbirdSpur2010
Also where is the B1G Conference Championship Game played again? Chicago? Cleveland? Cincinnati? Oh that’s right they play it indoors in Indianapolis 
and so does the MAC in Rock City, seems even the schools in the MidWest prefer to not play important games in the elements
and so does the MAC in Rock City, seems even the schools in the MidWest prefer to not play important games in the elements This post was edited on 12/30/18 at 3:20 pm
Posted on 12/30/18 at 3:38 pm to VerlanderBEAST
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I would like to have seen Clenson play ND in Yankee Stadium. We saw how Miami handled the cold weather
Good point.
We see how the SEC always plays post-season in "controlled environments" or regular season in warm weather.
Have Alabama go play fricking Wyoming in December.
Get rid of the Domes.
Posted on 12/30/18 at 3:56 pm to 2DayWuzAGoodDay2
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Why do the teams up North need inclement weather to beat a southern team? It's almost as though your saying northern teams are inferior and need help like bad weather in order to win a game against a quality team from the south.
It's crazy because even though both teams may not always play in the cold, they both do practice and play in spring and summer, therefore both should be comfortable playing in warm weather, therefore making perfect playing conditiins.
It's not that northern teams need the bad weather, it's that northern teams are built differently and have different philosophies because they have to play critical conference games in late November. But then have to play bowl games I'm warm weather and domed stadiums, all except for the Pinstripe Bowl. Surprise, guess who dominates that bowl's history? Northern teams have won every game except for Duke beating Indiana in OT. You saw what Wisconsin did to Miami this year in the cold.
An 8 team playoff with first round games on campus would be great. I'd love to see an at-large bid Georgia team have to play in Happy Valley against Big Ten winner Penn State in early December. You couldn't put enough heaters on the sidelines for the Dawgs.
Posted on 12/30/18 at 4:01 pm to SoDakHawk
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I'd love to see an at-large bid Georgia team have to play in Happy Valley against Big Ten winner Penn State in early December. You couldn't put enough heaters on the sidelines for the Dawgs.
Yeah that 43 degree weather in early December would really hurt a team that is built on the power running game against fricking Penn State.
It's not like these Big Ten teams are playing conference games in single digit temperatures.
Posted on 12/30/18 at 4:11 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Football is not meant to be played in the winter. It was originally created and played pretty much in the season of fall. Both the NFL and NCAA seasons used to start around the first weekend of fall, and the NFL season always ended the last weekend of fall with the championship being played the first weekend of winter. 55-65 degrees is perfect football weather, not 22 degrees and snow nor 98 degrees with a heat index of 115.
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