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re: Greatest option QB in college football history?

Posted on 6/4/17 at 7:21 pm to
Posted by The Anointed One
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Posted on 6/4/17 at 7:21 pm to
James Brown led to the beginning of the end of Nebraska football

That 1996 Big XII Championship is one of the best games ever

So with that James Brown can be a Run and Shoot QB if he wants to be
Posted by sms151t
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Posted on 6/4/17 at 7:23 pm to
Mackovic ran a pro style offense not a Run n Shoot

Mack came in made it more run oriented. He promised Ricky a Heisman so he wouldn't go play baseball.


That Texas team had the strangest story ever though during the Sugar Bowl with the 28 yr old claiming to be someone else
This post was edited on 6/4/17 at 7:25 pm
Posted by PeteRose
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Posted on 6/4/17 at 7:26 pm to
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Statistically he's better than Frazier



Frazier ran the triple option. If you count his stats along with the stats of his option RBs, TBs, WBs, Frazier blows others out the window.

It's called option so you can't just can't count the stats of the QB.
Posted by The Anointed One
Member since Apr 2017
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Posted on 6/4/17 at 7:28 pm to
I say James Brown can run any offense he wants because of how he lead to the beginnings of the destruction of Nebraska football

I believe this has lead to the era of sharks eating sharks or the destruction of blue blood programs

Especially when the conferences realign again


Posted by RollTide1987
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Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 6/4/17 at 7:30 pm to
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Frazier ran the triple option.


Be careful with that phrasing. While there was triple option involved in the offensive scheme he ran, Frazier took the vast majority of his snaps out of the I-Formation. There was no Wing or Wishbone involved during Frazier's tenure at Nebraska.
This post was edited on 6/4/17 at 7:31 pm
Posted by TT9
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Posted on 6/4/17 at 7:31 pm to
Hagan is the best I've ever seen. He didn't have a brick wall in front of him like Frazier did.
Posted by montanagator
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Posted on 6/4/17 at 7:31 pm to
Pure Option its not close Frazier was a freaking beast- 2 titles and missed FG from a third.
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
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Posted on 6/4/17 at 7:32 pm to
Michael Bishop
Posted by sms151t
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Posted on 6/4/17 at 7:39 pm to
Bishop wasn't an option QB.

Mike was dumb as a rock also.
This post was edited on 6/4/17 at 7:40 pm
Posted by sms151t
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Posted on 6/4/17 at 7:41 pm to
Frazier ran lot of load and freeze the FB was never an option. It was keep pitch

Posted by PeteRose
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Posted on 6/4/17 at 7:46 pm to
On any given play, it's either him, FB, TB to get the ball. To me that's triple option. Actually sometimes the fakes the option and threw the ball. That quadruple option.
Posted by dcrews
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 6/4/17 at 7:55 pm to
If you are including the Spread Option type offense, Newton and Tebow would have to be in the convo.

If not, I'm not really sure as I was entirely too young (or not alive) when the true option offense was common.
Posted by Jon Ham
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Posted on 6/4/17 at 7:59 pm to
Anyone say Matt Jones yet?
Posted by LordoftheManor
Member since Jul 2006
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Posted on 6/4/17 at 7:59 pm to
Vince Young. Pretty sure the zone read was the only play Greg Davis was capable of calling.
Posted by BowlJackson
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2013
52881 posts
Posted on 6/4/17 at 8:01 pm to
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Crouch can easily make the case for a Top 5 or Top 10 slot on a list of option QBs


Shouldn't the option to pass be an actual concern for a defense for an all-time great option QB?
Posted by StlPoke
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2017
1191 posts
Posted on 6/4/17 at 8:10 pm to
Michael Bishop

One of the forgotten great QBs
Posted by TTsTowel
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Posted on 6/4/17 at 8:11 pm to
quote:

Frazier ran the triple option. If you count his stats along with the stats of his option RBs, TBs, WBs, Frazier blows others out the window.

It's called option so you can't just can't count the stats of the QB.
Please compare 2013 Auburn and 1995 Nebraska in terms of their ground game.
Posted by 632627
LA
Member since Dec 2011
14680 posts
Posted on 6/4/17 at 8:30 pm to
quote:

Be careful with that phrasing. While there was triple option involved in the offensive scheme he ran, Frazier took the vast majority of his snaps out of the I-Formation. There was no Wing or Wishbone involved during Frazier's tenure at Nebraska.


a team like navy runs the option on almost every play.

Nebraska lined up almost exclusively in I formation, and would run the option, but not as much as much as the service academies.

That said, Frazier is absolutely a triple option qb.
This post was edited on 6/4/17 at 8:32 pm
Posted by 632627
LA
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 6/4/17 at 8:34 pm to
quote:



Shouldn't the option to pass be an actual concern for a defense for an all-time great option QB?




Not really because the triple option qb's rarely passed. Triple option is fb up the gut, qb keep or pitch to rb.

It's only the last 15 years with the read option that things have changed.

If I recall, michael bishop and Kansas state never ran triple option, but they did run speed option.
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 6/4/17 at 8:42 pm to
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Pure Option its not close Frazier was a freaking beast- 2 titles and missed FG from a third.


Pure wishbone it's Jamelle Holieway...and just running the bone...nobody was better, faster, more elusive, slick and just freakin' cool. Jamelle was a way better athlete than Frazier, he was Vick before Vick. He was Vick plus Marcus Dupree.

He'd smoke Frazier in a 40 and juking defenders. The guy ran the wishbone like it was second nature.

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This post was edited on 6/4/17 at 8:46 pm
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