- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
re: Greatest option QB in college football history?
Posted on 6/4/17 at 5:14 pm to CelticDog
Posted on 6/4/17 at 5:14 pm to CelticDog
quote:
Aubie held lsu defender on the td that was the last score.
Oh. Don't be one of those guys. You're suggesting Cam wasn't DOMINATING college football all season and a missed holding call is what made all of the difference. Yeah, Cam sucks bc of a holding call. Forget breaking 6 tackles and carrying PatPete for a score when it counted.
Did I use the correct verb tense mr. professor?
0
Posted on 6/4/17 at 5:19 pm to sms151t
quote:
Nick Marshall doesn't need to be on that list, IMO.
Why the hell not?
Like TTs said, I've never seen any QB run a read option better and more efficiently than Marshall did in 2013.
Statistically he's better than Frazier.
In Nick Marshall's 2 seasons at AU:
Passing- 4508 yards, 34 TD, 13 INT, 60.2%
Rushing- 1866 yards, 5.7 ypc, 23 TD
Posted on 6/4/17 at 5:21 pm to RollTide1987
Tebow
He's a top 5 player all time
He's a top 5 player all time
Posted on 6/4/17 at 5:25 pm to BowlJackson
You and I both know it's 2 separate styles of offense so the stats mean nothing. Also different philosophies so Marshall had more plays due to offense.
But Frazier ran 4 different styles of the option and improved passing.
So I guess using just stats we can say that Jimmy Klingler was better than Marino since he threw for more yards in college?
But Frazier ran 4 different styles of the option and improved passing.
So I guess using just stats we can say that Jimmy Klingler was better than Marino since he threw for more yards in college?
This post was edited on 6/4/17 at 5:27 pm
Posted on 6/4/17 at 5:28 pm to RollTide1987
Tommie Frazier is tGOAT, but Nick Marshall is underrated. His read option was a thing of beauty and he was slippery as hell once running
Posted on 6/4/17 at 5:29 pm to sms151t
Go ahead, tell us why Nick Marshall shouldn't be listed.
Again, I'm not saying he's the best.
Again, I'm not saying he's the best.
Posted on 6/4/17 at 5:32 pm to RollTide1987
Tommie Frazier has the best resume...
But the best I ever saw was...
Jamelle Holieway...
He was so good, he led OU to the national title despite the fact that he couldn't throw worth a damn. But running he was so elusive and quick. Far better runner than Frazier (who was a better passer).
But the best I ever saw was...
Jamelle Holieway...
He was so good, he led OU to the national title despite the fact that he couldn't throw worth a damn. But running he was so elusive and quick. Far better runner than Frazier (who was a better passer).
Posted on 6/4/17 at 5:33 pm to TTsTowel
You are willing to put Marshall ahead of
Frazier
Holieway
Cam
Tebow
Mildren
White
Vince Young
Charlie Ward
McReynolds
I'm not saying he's not a good QB but he's not in that same tier as the above players. Marshall just is not a guy who is deserving of that accolade.
Frazier
Holieway
Cam
Tebow
Mildren
White
Vince Young
Charlie Ward
McReynolds
I'm not saying he's not a good QB but he's not in that same tier as the above players. Marshall just is not a guy who is deserving of that accolade.
Posted on 6/4/17 at 5:34 pm to TTsTowel
quote:
Go ahead, tell us why Nick Marshall shouldn't be listed.
Bc he is not the greatest and the question was who is the greatest
quote:
Again, I'm not saying he's the best.
Oh, you do get it. You answered your own question.
Posted on 6/4/17 at 5:35 pm to RollTide1987
Brian Mitchel
Posted on 6/4/17 at 5:36 pm to RollTide1987
Jammal Lord
Posted on 6/4/17 at 5:39 pm to RollTide1987
Tommie Frazier not even close
Posted on 6/4/17 at 5:41 pm to sms151t
quote:
But Frazier ran 4 different styles of the option and improved passing.
Still career below 50% passing
Marshall is actually one of the best passers mentioned in this thread yet
Frazier played on probably the most dominant cfb team of all-time behind one of the most dominant OLs in CFB history. He also had a 4× Pro Bowler in Ahman Green and Lawrence Phillips who is considered one of the most talented RBs in CFB history to work with in Lawrence Phillips.
You argue Marshall's offense helps him statistically, but Frazier's supporting cast helped him even more.
There is no arguing that Marshall is a better passer. Frazier and Marshall both had 5.7 ypc on their career so we'll call it a draw in running the ball.
As for actually running the option itself, Marshall gets the nod there as well because it seemed he rarely ever made the wrong decision
quote:
So I guess using just stats we can say that Jimmy Klingler was better than Marino since he threw for more yards in college?
Is Trent Richardson a better RB than Walter Payton or even a Danny Woodhead just because Richardson played on a better college team?
Posted on 6/4/17 at 5:44 pm to kciDAtaE
quote:
Bc he is not the greatest and the question was who is the greatest
And yet OP throws out Eric Crouch
Posted on 6/4/17 at 5:46 pm to BowlJackson
Dude, find one person that followed college football for the last three decades that would ever have Nick Marshall ranked ahead of Tommy Frazier as great option QB and I'll show you a die hard auburn fan
There is no one alive who gets paid to report/follow college football that would ever have Marshall and Frazier in the same sentence
There is no one alive who gets paid to report/follow college football that would ever have Marshall and Frazier in the same sentence
Posted on 6/4/17 at 5:48 pm to BowlJackson
Would you Say Marshall is better than Darian Hagan?
I mean Hagan had better arm and was a guy that went for 1000 and 1000
Only 5th guy to do it at that time and won a NC
I mean Hagan had better arm and was a guy that went for 1000 and 1000
Only 5th guy to do it at that time and won a NC
This post was edited on 6/4/17 at 5:49 pm
Posted on 6/4/17 at 5:50 pm to BowlJackson
No we wouldn't and you think using stats makes Marshall better than Frazier?
Posted on 6/4/17 at 5:51 pm to sms151t
This post was edited on 11/8/20 at 2:36 pm
Posted on 6/4/17 at 5:54 pm to RollTide1987
Brad Wing
Posted on 6/4/17 at 5:59 pm to Kraut Dawg
Steve Taylor never gets credit. He threw for 5 TD vs ucla once. He didn't have the great IB that Frazier had. He was NU offense. If he'd be around for the "We Backs" NU may win another NC
Big 8 in that time frame was loaded 4 top 10 teams, NU OU oSu and CU
Big 8 in that time frame was loaded 4 top 10 teams, NU OU oSu and CU
This post was edited on 6/4/17 at 6:00 pm
Page 3 of 9
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News