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re: Greatest option QB in college football history?
Posted on 6/4/17 at 9:31 pm to RollTide1987
Posted on 6/4/17 at 9:31 pm to RollTide1987
Maybe not the best ever but watching Lance McIlhenny run the pony express was a thing of beauty.
Having that backfield helped a bit.
Having that backfield helped a bit.
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Posted on 6/4/17 at 9:31 pm to The Anointed One
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They made Nebraska their bitch pretty much first year in the Big 8
Texas was never in the Big 6/8
Posted on 6/4/17 at 9:31 pm to tccdc
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Pat White was not even the best option QB at WVU...that belongs to Major Harris.
Indeed. White had better speed and w/l, but Major was one of the greats of that era.
Not that these are all-timers, but as far as the flash fire that caught in the early 2000's, I'll add two unheralded guys that put Rich Rod's zone-read on the map, and changed cfb:
Woody Danztler and Rasheed Marshall.
Posted on 6/4/17 at 9:32 pm to BowlJackson
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And btw the 2013 SEC also had 4 teams finish ranked in the final top 10, and 7 teams finish in the final top 25
That might mean something if SEC teams actually played everyone
The #4 team in the country was SEC!!!
Yeah.. but you didn't play them
Posted on 6/4/17 at 9:37 pm to BowlJackson
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I don't see how any objective person could possibly come to the conclusion that what Nick Marshall did in isn't more impressive than what Tommie Frazier did
Because Frazier did it for 3+ years(injury) racking up 2 rings, stopping on UF and beating a good Miami team. Frazier' offense were so dominant that they didn't need a kick 6 or a tipped Hail Mary. Marshall had 1 great year.
Posted on 6/4/17 at 9:38 pm to StlPoke
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That might mean something if SEC teams actually played everyone
The #4 team in the country was SEC!!!
Yeah.. but you didn't play them
2013 Auburn played 5 top 10 teams, and 2 other top 25 teams
1995 Nebraska played 4 top 10 teams, and NO other ranked teams
Outside of those 4 top 10 teams that Nebraska played the next best teams had 6 wins
2013 Auburn played a tougher schedule than 95 Nebraska.
Your narrative explodes in your face, once again
Posted on 6/4/17 at 9:39 pm to PeteRose
quote:bingo
Because Frazier did it for 3+ years(injury) racking up 2 rings, stopping on UF and beating a good Miami team. Frazier' offense were so dominant that they didn't need a kick 6 or a tipped Hail Mary. Marshall had 1 great year.
Posted on 6/4/17 at 9:41 pm to sms151t
You know I meant the Big 12
Posted on 6/4/17 at 9:43 pm to BowlJackson
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2013 Auburn played 5 top 10 teams, and 2 other top 25 teams
No they didn't
They played 3 top 10 teams in Alabama, FSU (LOSS) and Missouri
They did play 2 more top 25 teams though. LSU (LOSS) and Texas A&M.
3-2 vs. top 25
Also. Lol at using time of game rankings
This post was edited on 6/4/17 at 9:44 pm
Posted on 6/4/17 at 9:44 pm to PeteRose
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Because Frazier did it for 3+ years(injury) racking up 2 rings, stopping on UF and beating a good Miami team. Frazier' offense were so dominant that they didn't need a kick 6 or a tipped Hail Mary. Marshall had 1 great year.
That has more to do with the team Frazier played with than himself.
Nick Marshall, individually, had 2 great years that are both far better than Frazier's best.
Posted on 6/4/17 at 9:46 pm to BowlJackson
Frazier was the key who made that offense go. It seemed like he made the right decision on literally every snap. Their backs were great, and their OL was dominant, but the option offense they ran doesn't work if the QB isn't making the correct read. He did that better than anyone I've seen running the option.
Posted on 6/4/17 at 9:56 pm to VADawg
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Frazier was the key who made that offense go. It seemed like he made the right decision on literally every snap. Their backs were great, and their OL was dominant, but the option offense they ran doesn't work if the QB isn't making the correct read. He did that better than anyone I've seen running the option
Frazier also had an ELITE defense backing him up. Marshall didn't. That makes a huge difference
Is is Nick Marshall's fault for example that after leading Auburn to a 37-17 4th qtr lead against UGA that the defense allowed UGA to score 21 (actually 14 and the refs gave UGA the last TD) putting him in position to have to pull out a miracle?
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but the option offense they ran doesn't work if the QB isn't making the correct read. He did that better than anyone I've seen running the option
Until 2013 Nick Marshall
Posted on 6/4/17 at 10:02 pm to BowlJackson
Come on man. Take your homer glasses off. Frazier might be the best of all time. Marshall was legit but he's not on Tommy's level.
Posted on 6/4/17 at 10:04 pm to BowlJackson
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Is is Nick Marshall's fault for example that after leading Auburn to a 37-17 4th qtr lead against UGA that the defense allowed UGA to score 21 (actually 14 and the refs gave UGA the last TD) putting him in position to have to pull out a miracle?
Wait.
I'm confused. I thought these SEC Defenses were incredible.
What's up with all the points?
Posted on 6/4/17 at 10:07 pm to RollTide1987
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Jamelle Holloway (OU
Posted on 6/4/17 at 10:11 pm to StlPoke
Compared to the steel curtain defenses Nebraska was going against in the mid 90s at those powerhouses in the state of Kansas... Yes
Any Nick Saban coached defense at Bama has more talent than all-Big 8 mid 90s defense.
Any Nick Saban coached defense at Bama has more talent than all-Big 8 mid 90s defense.
Posted on 6/4/17 at 10:37 pm to RollTide1987
Dee Dowis of the Air Force Academy
Posted on 6/4/17 at 10:43 pm to RollTide1987
Frazier for the win
Posted on 6/4/17 at 10:47 pm to BowlJackson
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That has more to do with the team Frazier played with than himself.
False.
In an option attack, the QB has to make the right read in order for the offense to succeed in moving the football. Frazier excelled at it. In 1995 he was damned near perfect at it.
And then of course you have runs like this that just separate him from other QBs:
LINK
This post was edited on 6/4/17 at 10:50 pm
Posted on 6/4/17 at 10:50 pm to Ponchy Tiger
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Dee Dowis of the Air Force Academy
I'm pretty sure a 5'8" 150 pound white drunk driver isn't the GOAT
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