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Posted on 2/18/26 at 7:29 am to RLDSC FAN
Mahomes at 4? Let’s let him finish his career first, shall we? Cause it sure looks like he’s not aging well
Posted on 2/18/26 at 8:12 am to RLDSC FAN
Elway does not belong anywhere near the top 10
Posted on 2/18/26 at 8:45 am to SoFla Tideroller
Dan Fouts is underrated. I've been watching NFL games from the later 70's and early 80's and he was better than I remember.
Yes, he had some great weapons and Winslow would still be a freak if he played today but Fouts consistently threw lasers into tight windows.
Yes, he had some great weapons and Winslow would still be a freak if he played today but Fouts consistently threw lasers into tight windows.
Posted on 2/18/26 at 10:16 am to RLDSC FAN
Terrible list, needless to say.
Here are my Top 10 most overrated selections from this atrocious rating system.
1. Brad Johnson (Played on good teams. Fair-Decent QB)
2. Doug Williams (nice SB. Period.)
3. Archie Manning (Fair-good. Happy-feet. Have NO idea how good he could have been since he famously ran for his life every game)
4. Trent Green (
)
5. Ryan Tannenhill (
)
6. Jeff Hostetler (loved the guy. BUT)
7.Kirk Cousins (great arm. Zero clutch.)
8. Earl Morrall (2 good seasons playing on great teams. Otherwise mediocre. Stunk up SB III)
9. Jack Kemp (future Senator defined mediocrity in the AFL 60s)
10. Joe Flacco. (one great clutch year does not a Top 100 make)
Bonus Over-rateds:
11. Michael Vick. (flashes of brilliance. Shambles during playoff time)
12. Bob Griese (game manager for great teams. Put NONE of them on his back)
13. Kenny Stabler (luxury of playing on great teams, sitting back in the pocket behind Upshaw and Shell for minutes before finding his 4th receiver)
14. Lamar Jackson. (ridiculously too high)
15. Drew Brees (rated waaaay too high.)
16. Pat Mahomes (strictly a product of the times. If a QB during the 60s-90s would have been taken off the field in a stretcher for his many shenanigans)
17. Tom Brady (rep benefited mightily from the QB-wears-a-dress era. Should be rated @ 20s.)
All QBs are the products of their times -- though in the last decade QBs are just game managers who ad lib run/pass with next-to ZERO risks of danger.
The following are singled out for NOT being rated much higher (as should EVERYONE who called their own plays and/or risked life & limb every play during the 60s-90s)
1. Dandy Don Meredith (great leader)
2. John Unitas (#11?
This tough guy was the definition of "Field General" -- calling his own plays, picking apart D's)
3. Otto Graham (totally dominant)
Here are my Top 10 most overrated selections from this atrocious rating system.
1. Brad Johnson (Played on good teams. Fair-Decent QB)
2. Doug Williams (nice SB. Period.)
3. Archie Manning (Fair-good. Happy-feet. Have NO idea how good he could have been since he famously ran for his life every game)
4. Trent Green (
5. Ryan Tannenhill (
6. Jeff Hostetler (loved the guy. BUT)
7.Kirk Cousins (great arm. Zero clutch.)
8. Earl Morrall (2 good seasons playing on great teams. Otherwise mediocre. Stunk up SB III)
9. Jack Kemp (future Senator defined mediocrity in the AFL 60s)
10. Joe Flacco. (one great clutch year does not a Top 100 make)
Bonus Over-rateds:
11. Michael Vick. (flashes of brilliance. Shambles during playoff time)
12. Bob Griese (game manager for great teams. Put NONE of them on his back)
13. Kenny Stabler (luxury of playing on great teams, sitting back in the pocket behind Upshaw and Shell for minutes before finding his 4th receiver)
14. Lamar Jackson. (ridiculously too high)
15. Drew Brees (rated waaaay too high.)
16. Pat Mahomes (strictly a product of the times. If a QB during the 60s-90s would have been taken off the field in a stretcher for his many shenanigans)
17. Tom Brady (rep benefited mightily from the QB-wears-a-dress era. Should be rated @ 20s.)
All QBs are the products of their times -- though in the last decade QBs are just game managers who ad lib run/pass with next-to ZERO risks of danger.
The following are singled out for NOT being rated much higher (as should EVERYONE who called their own plays and/or risked life & limb every play during the 60s-90s)
1. Dandy Don Meredith (great leader)
2. John Unitas (#11?
3. Otto Graham (totally dominant)
Posted on 2/18/26 at 10:22 am to Sheriff Brackett
quote:
Rodgers is an insufferable douche, but that guy can sling the football and is as talented as they come.
I'm a huge Brees guy, but Rodgers has some incredible throws that I think maybe only a handful of guys could also make.
I'd be hard pressed to put too many guys in front of him.
I would have Brees over Favre and Elway for sure.
I'm not a Saints/Brees guy, but the guy is normally pretty underrated when it comes to all time lists.
Brees
- 19 seasons as a starter
- 172-114 record (66%)
- 67.7 Comp%
- 80,358 Yards (2nd all time)
- 571 TDs (2nd all time)
- 98.7 Rating
Rodgers
- 18 seasons as a starter
- 163-93 record (57%)
- 65.1 Comp%
- 66,274 Yards (5th all-time)
- 525 TDs (4th all-time)
- 102.2 Rating
Rodgers will most likely stay at 5th all time in yards by the end and probably move into 3rd in TDs if he plays another season. Both had similar playoff success/only one title. Brees was healthier. I'd probably argue that overall Rodgers had the better weapons. I have a hard time comparing the two and seeing any reason to give the edge to Rodgers.
Posted on 2/18/26 at 10:22 am to Diseasefreeforall
quote:
Dan Fouts is underrated. I've been watching NFL games from the later 70's and early 80's and he was better than I remember.
Agree 100%. What a force. Going down field too. Plays as designed. FROM the pocket. Few inflated"dump-off" stats. Fun to watch.
Fouts was the first QB ever to put up pinball-type scores and stats. Typical Charger score during his career: 38-34
Posted on 2/18/26 at 10:23 am to SoFla Tideroller
quote:lol
Elway does not belong anywhere near the top 10
Posted on 2/18/26 at 10:28 am to UnluckyTiger
quote:
Where is Doug Flutie? Did I miss him?
He made the "Best Canadian Football League QBs list.
(seriously I loved Flutie. Didn't get a fair shot at the NFL. Winners like him and Tim Tebow were unfairly maligned and discarded. Their intangibles like leadership and clutch aren't ever "rated" in the stat column. )
Posted on 2/18/26 at 10:42 am to EphesianArmor
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17. Tom Brady (rep benefited mightily from the QB-wears-a-dress era. Should be rated @ 20s.)
Hahahahaha
Posted on 2/18/26 at 11:19 am to iwyLSUiwy
I do think injuries played a part for Rodgers. Stat-wise, I think it would be a lot closer in that regard if he managed to stay healthy.
Thought Rodgers was more mobile and just put the ball in spots and made some throws on the run that I don't think Drew or a lot of other guys can make on their best day. His highlight reel is unreal.
And that's not to take anything away from the others. I just think Rodgers is more talented (Brady even said that he was more talented than him), but it just never materialized into championships.
Rodgers also has the six best TD/INT ratios (minimum of 500 passes in a season) of all time, which is just insane.
Thought Rodgers was more mobile and just put the ball in spots and made some throws on the run that I don't think Drew or a lot of other guys can make on their best day. His highlight reel is unreal.
And that's not to take anything away from the others. I just think Rodgers is more talented (Brady even said that he was more talented than him), but it just never materialized into championships.
Rodgers also has the six best TD/INT ratios (minimum of 500 passes in a season) of all time, which is just insane.
This post was edited on 2/18/26 at 11:20 am
Posted on 2/18/26 at 12:32 pm to RLDSC FAN
Roger Staubach is top 5 in my book. Having him at 17 makes the list null and void.
Posted on 2/18/26 at 12:40 pm to RLDSC FAN
the fact that john elway is ranked in the top 10 of any of these list is criminal. at no time was he the best qb in his own conference much less the nfl at that time and for much of his career he wasnt even top 2 in the damn AFC.
Posted on 2/18/26 at 1:01 pm to RLDSC FAN
I’d take Brees over favre and elway
Posted on 2/18/26 at 1:07 pm to RLDSC FAN
Elway is not top 10
Cry it off
Cry it off
Posted on 2/18/26 at 2:04 pm to RLDSC FAN
I think it's unfair to compare QBs from different eras. In the 70s you had guys like Bradshaw and Tarkenton calling their own plays and dealing with defenders who were trying to kill them. Watch some of those old NFL films clips and you'll see defenders absolutely teeing off on QBs in a way modern QBs don't have to deal with. Those guys were basically playing a different game, so looking at stats, etc is misleading.
Posted on 2/18/26 at 2:08 pm to bgtiger
Derek Carr??? Gtfo
They have that mascara wearing bitch above Super Bowl winners when he never even made the playoffs
They have that mascara wearing bitch above Super Bowl winners when he never even made the playoffs
Posted on 2/18/26 at 2:54 pm to RLDSC FAN
I feel like Jim Everett is remembered more for socking the shite out of Jim Rome than anything else.
Posted on 2/18/26 at 3:25 pm to RLDSC FAN
Roethlisberger and Bradshaw above Staubach is a joke.
Posted on 2/18/26 at 5:56 pm to VolsOut4Harambe
quote:
Jim Everett
Everett was voted to one Pro Bowl in 1990 but had the most passing TDs in 1988 and 1989 but didn't make the Pro Bowl. Wade Wilson made it in 88 and Mark Rypien in 1989. These are the stats
Everett(88) 3,964 yards 31 TD 18 INT 10-6 record
Wilson(88) 2,746 yards 15 TD 9 INT 11-5 record
Everett (89) 4,310 yards 29 TD 17 INT 11-5 record
Rypien(89) 3,768 yards 22 TD 13 INT 9-5 record
I guess they felt bad for Everett in 1990 because they gave him the Pro Bowl that year and the Rams went 5-11
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