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Posted on 2/18/26 at 7:00 pm to Rainier Fog
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Let's not forget, Drew Brees has better per game stats than Tom Brady in just about every category
For one big game, who do you want as your QB?
Brady or Brees?
For that matter, Eli or Brees?
There's no explaining how or why certain players can elevate their game (or choke). I'd obviously take Eli over his brother any day.
Posted on 2/18/26 at 7:37 pm to RLDSC FAN
I know they penalized him because he never won a Super Bowl, but Marino is top 5 all time, maybe top 3
Posted on 2/18/26 at 8:08 pm to EphesianArmor
You picked your next username yet?
Posted on 2/18/26 at 8:18 pm to RLDSC FAN
Some of these QBs play on some really bad teams and shined. Marino could’ve had a ring or 2 if some his teams were a little better. He had a couple of years where he took a beating and couldn’t get the ball to his receivers. Their defenses were pretty bad for a lot of those years.
Brady and Montana had above average to really good defenses. Helped their cause. They are top tier QBs but if Marino had played with teams like Brady and Montana he’d be ranked in the top 3-5.
Brady and Montana had above average to really good defenses. Helped their cause. They are top tier QBs but if Marino had played with teams like Brady and Montana he’d be ranked in the top 3-5.
Posted on 2/18/26 at 8:22 pm to RLDSC FAN
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6) John Elway
7) Brett Favre
8) Drew Brees
Lol Brees is light fricking years better
Posted on 2/19/26 at 1:52 am to RLDSC FAN
No way Marino is 10.
Posted on 2/19/26 at 6:34 am to AllemanWC
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Marino could’ve had a ring or 2 if some his teams were a little better.
Marino lost to the 1985 Patriots and 1992 Bills in the AFCCG at home. Marino didn’t play well in either game. Both teams suffered two of the worst blowouts in Super Bowl history.
If Marino were the superhuman quarterback some think he was, could he have at least fared better in big games against a dreadful AFC?
Dude played 17 years and all anyone ever talks about is 1984, and he was mediocre against the 49ers in the Super Bowl that year too.
Posted on 2/19/26 at 6:54 am to RLDSC FAN
Im as big a Tom Brady fan as anybody but Dan Marino was the greatest pure QB I've ever seen.
Posted on 2/19/26 at 9:32 am to EphesianArmor
quote:ehh okay everyone is entitled to their opinion and I get it, the game has gotten way softer the past 20 years.
Tom Brady (rep benefited mightily from the QB-wears-a-dress era.
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Should be rated @ 20s.)
okay you’re an unserious person
Posted on 2/19/26 at 9:44 am to Hawgnsincebirth55
Great in his era. The best.
However, I've seen a lot of football through difference decades.
Tommy is emotional. That's good and bad. He would have definitely been rattled during other more eras where defenses were given more liberties to totally bully and intimidate QBs. For his career, the rules changed, he was coddled for over half of it, AND his O-Line was consistently one of the top pass protection lines in football for 20 years.
Brady might have still be "good", but would not fared nearly as well under that find of constant duress as say a Montana, Namath, Kenny Anderson or even a Troy Aikman.
However, I've seen a lot of football through difference decades.
Tommy is emotional. That's good and bad. He would have definitely been rattled during other more eras where defenses were given more liberties to totally bully and intimidate QBs. For his career, the rules changed, he was coddled for over half of it, AND his O-Line was consistently one of the top pass protection lines in football for 20 years.
Brady might have still be "good", but would not fared nearly as well under that find of constant duress as say a Montana, Namath, Kenny Anderson or even a Troy Aikman.
Posted on 2/19/26 at 9:54 am to Globetrotter747
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If Marino were the superhuman quarterback some think he was, could he have at least fared better in big games against a dreadful AFC?
You do realize there are 40 guys on a football team?
Coaches' tasks are to develop Game Plans, script out offensive & defensive schemes; Motivate & inspire players and staff.
Marino coached by say Bill Walsh's 49'er, Joe Gibbs or Bill Parcells would have also destroyed the opposition. The man's lightning release and arm, toughness and smarts AND best years were wasted in Miami. His teams had ZERO running game, put mediocre-bad defenses on the field -- while their secondary was constantly shredded (much like the Dan Fouts Chargers era.)
Posted on 2/19/26 at 10:04 am to EphesianArmor
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Tommy is emotional. That's good and bad. He would have definitely been rattled during other more eras where defenses were given more liberties to totally bully and intimidate QBs.
His first 3 rings were under an era of bullying QBs. The game wasn't as soft in the early 2000s as it is now.
Posted on 2/19/26 at 10:19 am to EphesianArmor
He’s won more super bowls than any franchise in the sport. He’s got the stats, he’s got the rings, he’s got the accolades and every player that played against him says he’s tGOAT. He is objectively the best by every measurement your subjective feelings don’t matter
Posted on 2/19/26 at 10:23 am to RLDSC FAN
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The game wasn't as soft in the early 2000s as it is now.
For sure. Day and Night.
But the degree of allowable rampantt bullying & intimidation of the 1970s and 1980 (of QB and receivers) vs early 2000s was also relative day and night.
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His first 3 rings were under an era of bullying QBs.
IMO modified "bullying" was allowed by then. As well as more freedom of movement for receivers.
The Pats (and Brady's) first three SB victories:
2002 New England Patriots St. Louis Rams WON: 20-17
2004 New England Patriots Carolina Panthers WON: 32-29
2005 New England Patriots Philadelphia Eagles WON: 24-21
Three squeakers that could easily have gone either way. Patriot D was one of the best.
None against a top-notch intimidating defense.
Tom played good enough to win. Not saying he isn't an all-time great. The past require more physicality and mental toughness.
Posted on 2/19/26 at 10:28 am to Hawgnsincebirth55
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your subjective feelings don’t matter
Yeah, for documentarians and observers of NFL history, they actually do.
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He’s won more super bowls than any franchise in the sport. He’s got the stats, he’s got the rings, he’s got the accolades and every player that played against him says he’s tGOAT.
IN his era, true.
Stats during his second half of QBing (which in different eras would not have existed), highly inflated his as well as most QB stats.) IMO the NFL has been more like Arena Football since @2014.
Posted on 2/19/26 at 10:32 am to EphesianArmor
quote:No ever
IN his era, true.
what are you even talking about? The Steelers and patriots are tied with the most total super bowls with 6. Brady has fricking 7Posted on 2/19/26 at 10:37 am to EphesianArmor
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You do realize there are 40 guys on a football team?
Yes. And everything that went positive was due to the greatness of Marino. Anything negative was someone else’s fault.
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Marino coached by say Bill Walsh's 49'er, Joe Gibbs or Bill Parcells would have also destroyed the opposition.
If a lot college quarterbacks had played on Marino’s Pitt teams, maybe they would have won a national title. Bobby Bowden called the 1980 Pitt team the best he ever coached against - four future NFL Hall of Famers, including two on the OL as well as Pro Bowlers like Mark May - and Marino couldn’t win a ring with them either.
Marino was drafted by a team that had just made it to the Super Bowl the year before and went 11-5 the year after he retired. In between, the AFC was by far the inferior conference and he only appeared in one Super Bowl while playing for two HOF coaches.
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His teams had ZERO running game, put mediocre-bad defenses on the field -- while their secondary was constantly shredded (much like the Dan Fouts Chargers era.)
The Dolphins scored 14 and 10 pts. in AFFCG losses at home. Marino’s passer rating was 54.9 and 56.5.
Marino shares the blame for big game losses.
Posted on 2/19/26 at 10:39 am to EphesianArmor
quote:so again, your argument entire take is pointless because you are saying you refuse to accept any stat after you deem the game “too soft” like come on dude. If that’s the case let’s just say babe Ruth wasn’t worth a frick since he didn’t have to hit off Paul skenes are we going there next? Guys can only play the teams in their schedule and by the rules at the time they played. Everything else is bullshite for sports writers to spin editorials over.
Stats during his second half of QBing (which in different eras would not have existed), highly inflated his as well as most QB stats.) IMO the NFL has been more like Arena Football since @2014.
Posted on 2/19/26 at 10:45 am to Hawgnsincebirth55
Which is why Dan Marino’s passing yards crazy special.
I’d love to see Elway in modern football. Warren Moon was so good, but that oilers coaching staff was a circus.
I’d love to see Elway in modern football. Warren Moon was so good, but that oilers coaching staff was a circus.
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