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re: Here's the budget breakdown of a couple that make $500K and still feel average

Posted on 1/25/24 at 9:14 pm to
Posted by Rize
Spring Texas
Member since Sep 2011
15821 posts
Posted on 1/25/24 at 9:14 pm to
Some of those line items make zero sense.

9k on those two cars means they pretty much paid cash.

I’m paying $6500 a year on car insurance for a 2021 X5M and a 2022 F250, $3700 a year on home insurance on not a 1.5 mil home.
This post was edited on 1/25/24 at 9:23 pm
Posted by McVick
Member since Jan 2011
4469 posts
Posted on 1/25/24 at 9:18 pm to
Ah, that makes much more sense. Then that should break down to $63 a day to feed a family of four in 2019.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
85048 posts
Posted on 1/25/24 at 9:32 pm to
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The social security portion of FICA was capped at 160,200 in 2023 So on a % of income basis their FICA taxes were lower than people that make less than 160K a year


Yeah I know.

If they’re both high earners, plus Medicare surcharge, and living in CA, I still can’t get income taxes higher than $156k.

I’ve already wasted more time calculating this than I planned.

Posted by Rize
Spring Texas
Member since Sep 2011
15821 posts
Posted on 1/25/24 at 10:50 pm to
quote:

Yeah I know. If they’re both high earners, plus Medicare surcharge, and living in CA, I still can’t get income taxes higher than $156k. I’ve already wasted more time calculating this than I planned.



That’s close to what you would pay in Louisiana with 500k in income with a 4.5% state income tax rate. I think Cali is close to 6% higher.

Posted by Pendulum
Member since Jan 2009
7054 posts
Posted on 1/25/24 at 11:08 pm to
Seems like they are living a pretty cush life, have money left over, aren't very frugal, living in a very nice house depending on where they are, and are still going deep in their 401ks......what's the issue again?

Americans are dumb. Social media has removed many Americans from having a basis in reality.
This post was edited on 1/25/24 at 11:16 pm
Posted by AndyJ
Member since Jul 2008
2755 posts
Posted on 1/26/24 at 12:41 am to
Maybe they have a 15 year mortgage.

My wife and I both do well, but we kill ourselves putting money into retirement and paying off our house (12 years left). Most expenses will be gone (kids out of college) when we pay the house off. I will be 56.

I wonder if they are paying their house off quickly
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
80169 posts
Posted on 1/26/24 at 5:54 am to
They also are paying for a 1.5m home.

Could easily cut out half of the kids activities and charity and walk away with 15k at the end of the year.
Posted by PetroBabich
Donetsk Oblast
Member since Apr 2017
4626 posts
Posted on 1/26/24 at 6:25 am to
quote:

Seems like they are living a pretty cush life, have money left over, aren't very frugal, living in a very nice house depending on where they are, and are still going deep in their 401ks......what's the issue again?


Entitlement
Posted by stelly1025
Lafayette
Member since May 2012
8524 posts
Posted on 1/26/24 at 6:28 am to
3 vacations a year, that is totally average. Also 42K for child care? That is beyond stupid. Also 23K for 2 adults and 2 kids? Learn to cook. 18K for charity? Build your savings up first ,before you donate to charity. $800 a month for Cars? Pay that shite off. Also with that high of a Salary why didn't they live cheap and gangbang out those student loans? This is poor money management and very bad habits.
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
68349 posts
Posted on 1/26/24 at 7:59 am to
A grand a month for "children lessons" is hilarious
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
18015 posts
Posted on 1/26/24 at 8:41 am to
not even maxing out the 401k....crazy.
Posted by GeauxTigers123
Member since Feb 2007
1345 posts
Posted on 1/26/24 at 8:45 am to
But part of the problem is that at $500k they can probably get there kids into activities where they associate with kids if people worth $30 million so it makes them feel poor (even though they are high earners).
Posted by tigerbacon
Arkansas
Member since Aug 2010
3700 posts
Posted on 1/26/24 at 9:05 am to
I got on 5 vacations a year. I love to travel
Posted by hiltacular
NYC
Member since Jan 2011
19680 posts
Posted on 1/26/24 at 9:14 am to
The child care component is not worth complaining about. $42k per year is absolutely legit in the northeast and is damn close to what I pay.

I don’t really see the point in the graphic. This couple is by all means living a good life, saving a lot and still has money leftover.
Posted by Lawyered
The Sip
Member since Oct 2016
29345 posts
Posted on 1/26/24 at 9:26 am to
$10,000 worth of clothes and I’m
Sure they have closets overflowing of shite they never or have never worn

Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68736 posts
Posted on 1/26/24 at 9:42 am to
shite, they still doing way better than I am.

How are they even remotely average?

Even after all of their expenses, which includes emergencies and savings, they still have thousands left over every year.





Posted by Motorboat
At the camp
Member since Oct 2007
22693 posts
Posted on 1/26/24 at 10:36 am to
Is no one bothered by the amount of taxes they are paying? Non business owner/higher wage earners get no fricking help from the IRS. Kills take home pay.
Posted by lnomm34
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2009
12614 posts
Posted on 1/26/24 at 10:57 am to
I am fricking pissed off that they're paying $2500 for insurance on a $1.5M house.
Posted by FinleyStreet
Member since Aug 2011
7903 posts
Posted on 1/26/24 at 11:00 am to
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Is no one bothered by the amount of taxes they are paying?


Well they need to quantify what makes up that number because it's clearly more than just federal which would be closer to ~22% (standard deduction) on that salary. Another 3.5% for FICA and assuming they live in CA it's roughly another ~4% bump. It's not good but it's still not 40%.

I think it's weird that they don't have any medical deductions.
Posted by Lightning
Texas
Member since May 2014
2300 posts
Posted on 1/26/24 at 11:12 am to
I had questions so I found the CNBC article this came from LINK as well as the Financial Samurai article the CNBC report pulls its info from LINK

When you get more info, this becomes even more laughable.

The couple lives in NYC, they own a $1.5M condo in Brooklyn. Not wildly out of range for homeownership in NYC and that explains their taxes. No explanation given for $2,500 insurance on a $1.5M home though.

Their kids are 3 and 5, so the childcare number makes sense but these idiots are spending a grand per month on Mandarin, violin and tennis lessons for kids not too long out of diapers.

Both of their vehicles are leased. 2 large vehicles in a public transit oriented city is dumb.

This example is from 2018, so they actually were roughly maxing their 401ks as the limits were $18,500 in 2018.
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