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When Did Optics Become More Important Than Outcomes?

Posted on 9/30/26 at 7:03 am
Posted by RoosterCogburn585
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 9/30/26 at 7:03 am
When did society become more obsessed with appearing to do the right thing than actually doing what works? We celebrate statements, campaigns, policies, and gestures that look good on the surface, but how often do we stop and ask whether they actually improve anything? At some point, it feels like good optics became more valuable than good outcomes.

Maybe symbolic actions matter, but should they still be praised when the results don’t match the message? And if questioning whether something works is treated as being against the cause itself, how are we supposed to separate real progress from performative progress? I’m curious where people draw that line.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
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Posted on 9/30/26 at 7:05 am to
November 7th, 2014
Posted by Bourre
Da Parish
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 9/30/26 at 7:06 am to
Virtue signaling for the socials is the answer you’re looking for
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
40985 posts
Posted on 9/30/26 at 7:07 am to
When Oklahoma state missed that fricking field goal

Also 2003 AP
This post was edited on 9/30/26 at 7:08 am
Posted by UptownJoeBrown
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Posted on 9/30/26 at 7:09 am to
It’s all about the dopamine hits from social media. Humans do whatever gives them the most of it.
Posted by CocomoLSU
Inside your dome.
Member since Feb 2004
157651 posts
Posted on 9/30/26 at 7:12 am to
quote:

When did society become more obsessed with appearing to do the right thing than actually doing what works?

There has always been this kinda shite, but social media really brought it to the forefront.
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 9/30/26 at 7:12 am to
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OweO


Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
484090 posts
Posted on 9/30/26 at 7:13 am to
When algorithms learned how to best exploit our lizard brains combined with a societal shift to polarity

Posted by StatMaster
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
4531 posts
Posted on 9/30/26 at 7:14 am to
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When did society become more obsessed with appearing to do the right thing than actually doing what works?
When media/politicians/influencers realized how dumb the average person was and that they could monetize it that stupidity.
Posted by sgallo3
Lake Charles
Member since Sep 2008
28714 posts
Posted on 9/30/26 at 7:15 am to
Around the same time data became more valuable than products.

A data harvesting company like X is worth billions while airlines are worth millions.

A good example is when that shoe company swapped away from making shoes to AI and shot up billions almost overnight
This post was edited on 9/30/26 at 7:19 am
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
33795 posts
Posted on 9/30/26 at 7:16 am to
It’s always been that way. The difference now is how many people can reasonably put eyes/ears on any given thing. With the rise of the 24 hour news cycle and then social media, that answer is now “everyone, who will then shift their attention to something else, immediately”. So everyone consumes the sound bite while no one sticks around to examine the results.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
484090 posts
Posted on 9/30/26 at 7:19 am to
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It’s always been that way. The difference now is how many people can reasonably put eyes/ears on any given thing.

It's also how messaging can be automatically segregated into population silos. That reinforcement is massive, especially with how society is pushing groups into such hard in/out group identification dynamics.

For a non-political, very vanilla example. How many of you have separate profiles on a Netflix or Prime as your spouse? Do you ever look at their suggested movies?
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
25210 posts
Posted on 9/30/26 at 7:50 am to
Because we’ve shifted to a balanced society where women have a much bigger impact on how things are viewed culturally.

Women value feelings and perception relative to men,
Posted by 91TIGER
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Posted on 9/30/26 at 8:20 am to
Posted by NOLATiger163
Insane State of NOLA
Member since Aug 2018
639 posts
Posted on 9/30/26 at 8:23 am to
If you're Catholic and went to mass last Sunday, this was exactly the Gospel.

[ETA: So obviously Jesus thought it was a problem ˜ 2000 years ago.]
This post was edited on 9/30/26 at 8:26 am
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 9/30/26 at 8:24 am to
Posted by Doby
Lafayette
Member since Sep 2014
2199 posts
Posted on 9/30/26 at 8:44 am to
IMHO……

9/11 was the jumping off point for all this shite. Thanks Bin Laden.
Posted by TheIndulger
Member since Sep 2011
19454 posts
Posted on 9/30/26 at 8:46 am to
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It’s always been that way.


Agree. People are people, we are social beings and will never not value others’ opinions about us, drama and gossip has existed since the dawn of time.

People just have platforms to show it to the world now
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37982 posts
Posted on 9/30/26 at 8:47 am to
quote:

When did society become more obsessed with appearing to do the right thing than actually doing what works?


The beginning of time
Posted by cypresstiger
The South
Member since Aug 2008
14676 posts
Posted on 9/30/26 at 8:50 am to
Parting of the Red Sea?
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