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There was an analysis that Putin no longer believes that Trump controls the US IC / MIC and thus any peace deal with him is meaningless because as soon as he leaves office it would be broken and he probably couldn’t make it stick if he wanted to.

I believe that after watching him fail to control Z, fail to prevent the assassination attempts against Putin and fail to prevent the attacks on the strategic nuclear bombing fleet he might be correct to an uncomfortable degree.

re: Epstein list is pandora's box.

Posted by tide06 on 7/13/25 at 10:32 am
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That assumes you know the cost of exposing the file. Pray tell - what IS that cost which can be easily borne for the sheer pleasure of poking fun at some rich pedophiles. We are all curious - please tell us.

I don’t believe we should value an alliance with Israel if they are ok trafficking American children for sexual abuse to leverage American politicians and businessmen.

How does that arrangement even setting aside the horrible abuse benefit America?

An ally who is willing to do that isn’t an ally, they are potentially a threat.

re: Epstein list is pandora's box.

Posted by tide06 on 7/13/25 at 10:24 am
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Based on all of the actual evidence (and not fantasies from Xfluencers and online useful idiots) the people who perpetrated the crimes were punished.

Where are the videos? We have pictures of the recordings being taken yet not one person from them has been identified.

If it were just Epstein acting on his own why was he flying everyone else there?

Why did he have an entire underground structure built with individual locked rooms each equipped with their own surveillance systems?

Why did Wexner sign over power of attorney to a $2B empire to an unknown former teacher after spending time with Epstein?

Where did all the other evidence seized go? It was photographed as it was taken yet now it doesn’t exist?

Who made the FL case go away after informing prosecutors that he was an intelligence asset? Do you have any idea how much juice you need to make that happen?

You’re taking a preposterous position to rationalize defending covering up child rape.
Sahara dust = no hurricanes.

I’ll take all the dust I can get until early November.
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Their real estate and infrastructure is basically built with toothpaste and a dream.

My understanding is that it’s socially accepted for their construction contractors to do whatever possible to cut costs from selling unsafe weak rebar to concrete that’s so cut down with sawdust or other additives that it crumbles to the touch.

Screwing someone in a business transaction however you possibly can is a national pastime over there.
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This implies corrupt elements wanted him dead.

This is true.
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bad as that is, it would be even worse if the entire agency was the Keystone Kops.

This is also true unfortunately.

No mobile drone protection.
No defensive drones.
No cohesive communication network to share with local resources.
Obvious gaps in close protection.
Blind spots in counter sniper coverage.
Agents carrying sidearms rather than military grade firearms (mp5, etc)
God knows what else we don’t know about.

Any semi competent attack would’ve succeeded and he would be better off firing USSC completely and having Delta Force or a private contractor run security until that agency like so many others was rebuilt from the ground up using military assets, tactics, tech and strategy.
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Elon also said Bannon is in it.

Elon hates Bannon and isn’t exactly rational recently.

I haven’t seen either Trump or Bannon listed in anything anywhere other than Trump being in his Rolodex and flying with him from NYC to West Palm.

This is about something else.

re: Epstein list is pandora's box.

Posted by tide06 on 7/13/25 at 8:20 am
If your system is predicated on leveraging child rape to blackmail people into doing what you want you have an evil system.

If you find yourself suggesting we don’t need to prosecute child rapists because it’s politically inconvenient to your donors you aren’t fit to lead.

It’s as simple as that and anyone including the president who wants to sit on that side of the issue can **** off.

This isn’t a grey issue. It’s black and white. Child rape and covering for those who were involved in it is unequivocally horrible and should be prosecuted to the fullest extent possible in every single possible situation without exception regardless of who or what “greatest allied nation” was responsible for it.
Tells me this is Trump not Bondi who wanted this to go away.

He would happily run over Bondi if need be but no one on the right will openly go against Trump.

The @realDonaldTrump call out speaks volumes IMO.
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Bet that guys is sinking to the floor.

He’s probably some staffer who got to take a free trip to the event sponsored by K Street to try to steer the narrative to benefit the donor class.

Oops.
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I feel like it's FUBAR, but there is no fixing it quickly, so everyone should move on. I really don't understand Bongino here. Why sign off on that memo that there is nothing? And if there is nothing, why is he mad at Bondi? Because her inconsistent statements make them look bad?

The FBI doesn't have the evidence anymore.

The DOJ has or had the evidence.

What the DOJ chooses to do or not do with that evidence, assuming all of it still exists, is the prerogative of the AG who serves the President.

Bongino could well have been shown limited evidence intended to support the conclusion that Epstein did in fact kill himself only to find out that DOJ was holding back evidence as they have in the past to support predetermined narratives.

Ask yourself why Bibi was in the WH for the third time after the Iran conflict was over just as this was blowing up?

Its extremely likely that the Epstein files directly prove that Mossad was running that op and had Epstein killed in his cell on US soil.

For a sitting US president to implicate Israel beyond a shadow of a doubt of sex trafficking US girls to run a blackmail op that's still ongoing involving former presidents, congress and senior business leaders is a political matter, not just a judicial issue.

They were almost certainly told to stand down. Whether that's a result of political threats from compromised people in the US (BBB for Epstein and Ukraine funding), from Mossad/Israel against senior US officials or just a political decision by Trump to let it go is for us to speculate but we simply cant say what is what beyond the fact that something nuclear happened with regard to this case at the highest levels and its shaken the administration to its very core.
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It’s probable that there is a monster in those files that neither of three really knew how dangerous it was until they could access all of the files without redactions and Bondi is spooked.

Umm you mean like a joint Mossad / CIA operation that intentionally recruited, trafficked and oversaw the rape of American children?

What could possibly be more explosive and dangerous than exposing that combo?

re: Dan Bongino

Posted by tide06 on 7/11/25 at 5:10 pm
I think hes just italian and irish not that it matters either way to me.
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Bongino should be afforded much more grace. He never really wanted the job.

I think he did.

I think he just expected to actually get to take out the reference was told were fair game in return for passing on millions per year.

If he’s sitting there watching these cases pissed away while his brand and reputation get shot to hell I don’t blame him for wanting out.
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Pam Bondi is a pass through, doing what she’s told.

Entirely possible.

We don’t have enough information to say for sure.

But again. I don’t have reason to trust her.

Bongino has his entire brand and personal reputation on the line here.
How the hell would Kaitlyn Collins at CNN know anything about Dan Bongino?

If there was anything sure to undermine the validity of this narrative it’s CNN reporting that it’s true.
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It's very possible they didn't get all the evidence.

Absolutely possible if not probable.
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It's also extremely possible Epstein actually killed himself.

My brother in Christ, let’s be serious.

If he killed himself why would they be going through all this to obfuscate the facts related to the death?

People don’t delete tapes or have guards disappear when they would’ve supported a narrative that’s beneficial to them,

re: Can AOC be sued for this?

Posted by tide06 on 7/11/25 at 3:52 pm
Trump has already won similar cases.
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Paxton doesn't want it. I thought Loomer deserved credit so it got its own thread.

Might not be true after he got caught cheating on his wife and is going through a divorce.