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re: Kate Koval leaving the basketball team

Posted on 8/25/26 at 8:06 am to
Posted by Slippy
Across the rivah
Member since Aug 2005
7850 posts
Posted on 8/25/26 at 8:06 am to
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I never heard of her until I opened this thread

But I’m not like a lot of the pussies on here that watch women’s basketball


Wow. So edgy.

Posted by Keltic Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2006
22347 posts
Posted on 8/25/26 at 8:09 am to
Such pure ignorance re the history of the hate between these 2 countries. You are isolating these 2 young girls from that history that goes back into the 20's - 30's. As noted, Stalin starved millions to death pre war. Ukrainians made up the majority of SS guards at Auschwitz, mentally & physically abusing thousands Russian POWS. As Russian troops moved through the Ukraine entire villages were burned to the ground, its citizens murdered en masse by the thousands. Post war Russian oppression continued through decades by occupation abuses etc etc etc. Do you really believe this level of mutual hate simply disappeared over time' passed down by generation after generation. And as an aside, do you remember how Japanese Americans were treated after Pearl Harbor?
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
61734 posts
Posted on 8/25/26 at 8:25 am to
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Yeah she should make her decision based on the character of her teammate. Not because of the media pushing this story. In fact the two could have shown that they can coexist as teammates and be successful despite their countries differences.
I think this post shows just how removed most Americans are from the brutality of this conflict and history between the two countries. Can you imagine our grandparents playing ball w a Japanese or German dude? Mine wouldn’t even say the name if the country without a few cuss words to describe
This post was edited on 8/25/26 at 8:27 am
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
65594 posts
Posted on 8/25/26 at 8:33 am to
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Yes, it's exactly like that.


Educate me on the difference. One group of people hated on another due to skin color. Koval is hating on another because of nationality.

This 17 year old Russian girl has nothing to do with the Russia-Ukraine conflict.
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
65594 posts
Posted on 8/25/26 at 8:36 am to
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Can you imagine our grandparents playing ball w a Japanese or German dude?




Posted by tigerbait2010
PNW
Member since May 2006
33848 posts
Posted on 8/25/26 at 8:39 am to
I truly think it says plenty about how Kim feels about Kate Koval’s ceiling to make the decision in the first place.

And honestly frick Ukraine one of the most corrupt countries in the world stealing hundreds of billions from American taxpayers.


She quite clearly left because of the new center from Russia but the staff knew it would be controversial, yet they seem to think it was worth it.
Posted by FlyFishinTiger
Fayetteville,AR
Member since Mar 2021
1188 posts
Posted on 8/25/26 at 9:06 am to
There is hatred between the countries. Deep hatred. They are killing you and yours. And you are killing them and theirs. It would be very difficult to be on same basketball team for either of the two.
Posted by Big4SALTbro
Member since Jun 2019
25286 posts
Posted on 8/25/26 at 9:06 am to
Yea she knew this was a possibility and looked at Kate’s ceiling and what she say in the Russian girl and did what made the team better.

Posted by GeauxLSUBengalTigers
Member since Sep 2016
699 posts
Posted on 8/25/26 at 9:18 am to
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Her father is in the Ukrainian military. I think it’s pretty understandable
As if the Russian college basketball player has anything to do with the war. 10x the downvote.
Posted by GeauxLSUBengalTigers
Member since Sep 2016
699 posts
Posted on 8/25/26 at 9:22 am to
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Alright let's add perspective then. You have a teenager moving directly from Afghanistan to play on your kids high school team in 2005 (4 years post 911). How do you think the reaction would be here?
Another dumb analogy. I hardly think she was the one living in caves making those calls.
Posted by wm72
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2010
9748 posts
Posted on 8/25/26 at 9:24 am to
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think this post shows just how removed most Americans are from the brutality of this conflict and history between the two countries. 


Yeah, I know lots of Russians and Ukrainians that are US citizens who get along great but most Russian Americans that have been here a long time are the most anti-Putin people on the planet.

However, if my father was actively fighting in a war and my country was getting bombed everyday I may be skeptical of putting myself in a situation where my teammate, even if a "good person" is always giving the other side of the story.

I may just think I don't want anything to do with it.

And, I may think that a player having the opportunity to come from Moscow to play in the USA right now doesn't fit with emphasizing that the Russian invasion of Ukraine has consequences for all the citizens.

Again, you can argue the other side of these things but can certainly understand how someone actually experiencing that war hourly may not agree.




This post was edited on 8/25/26 at 9:39 am
Posted by CapitalTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Sep 2019
665 posts
Posted on 8/25/26 at 9:33 am to
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As if the Russian college basketball player has anything to do with the war. 10x the downvote.


You do understand how military operations and espionage work, right?

Posted by CJ786
Member since Aug 2025
80 posts
Posted on 8/25/26 at 9:36 am to
This is the dumbest thing I've ever seen. Most Ukrainians ARE Russian. I'm Ukrainian and Russian, both countries histories are so intertwined we are very very similar. Let Kate leave, she is clearly a snowflake. Likely one of the few Western Ukrainians that wants the entire country to be just like Western Europe.
Posted by Supermoto Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2010
10979 posts
Posted on 8/25/26 at 9:47 am to
quote:

Beau Fontenot

STTDB
Posted by KamaCausey_LSU
Member since Apr 2013
17856 posts
Posted on 8/25/26 at 9:53 am to
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However, if my father was actively fighting in a war and my country was getting bombed everyday I may be skeptical of putting myself in a situation where my teammate, even if a "good person" is always giving the other side of the story.

We also don't know what kind of pressure and influence she might be getting from family and friends in Ukraine.

I always found it odd that she was the only current player that wasn't in the picture for Williams's (I thnk) birthday post. Make me think that this decision wasn't a surprise to Mulkey.
Posted by Kool Kaliper
Mansfield, TX
Member since Nov 2018
3947 posts
Posted on 8/25/26 at 9:58 am to
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I thought MLK taught us to judge people by the content of their character and not by the color of their skin,


Not the time.
Posted by GeauxLSUBengalTigers
Member since Sep 2016
699 posts
Posted on 8/25/26 at 10:03 am to
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You do understand how military operations and espionage work, right?
LOL. Yeah, I'm literally laughing out loud.
Posted by JohnnyU
Florida
Member since Nov 2006
13247 posts
Posted on 8/25/26 at 10:11 am to
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Sounds very superficial of Koval.


yeah, her country and probably relatives have been torn apart by an unjust war and you expect her to let bygones be bygones.

This has nothing to with MLK aspirations for a more civil society.
Posted by Ralph_Wiggum
Sugarland
Member since Jul 2005
11192 posts
Posted on 8/25/26 at 10:11 am to
We need to think that Putin and Russia would use this for propaganda. Let's say Kate stays and the team does well and they play as teammates. Putin could easily use this as propaganda while her father is in the Ukrainian military.

Kate would have no control over how Putin would use them playing together for his own purposes. I believe that has to be considered as a legitimate issue.
Posted by CapitalTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Sep 2019
665 posts
Posted on 8/25/26 at 10:16 am to
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LOL. Yeah, I'm literally laughing out loud.


About what? That governments often use family members to infiltrate their enemies/opponents. You know how the CIA found Bin Laden, right? Or how Mossad routinely gains intel on Hezbollah? Or how the CCP gains access to US assets & information?


Again. We're not talking about two civilian families here. Koval's dad is actively killing and bombing Russians. If this wasn't the case, I'd understand the points made in this thread.
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