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re: Jay’s quote “We’re not going to negotiate with terrorists”
Posted on 6/11/25 at 9:07 am to XbengalTiger
Posted on 6/11/25 at 9:07 am to XbengalTiger
I don't know what it is about this thread but something is just making me think "frick Brady Neal"
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Posted on 6/11/25 at 9:08 am to Mandtgr47
Sorry, but these kids do not get where they are without an extremely high work ethic. They just do not want to wait their turn, or they see the crowded path and head somewhere with less competition.
Posted on 6/11/25 at 9:14 am to lesthemadhatter
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I wonder who the player was he negotiated with.
Maybe Grant Fontenot? He was on Jay's first team here then went to JUCO, then transferred to Texas, and now is back here.
Posted on 6/11/25 at 9:22 am to TigersJump
It’s the overall culture in general. Very little perseverance anymore!
Posted on 6/11/25 at 9:46 am to Jcorye1
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Teams constantly "process" kids that try hard but don't quite develop. It's not a one way street.
I think what bothers me the most is when a little used freshman leaves. You have to put sone time in. Most players will not excel as freshmen.
Now if you been somewhere 3 years and still can’t break through? Then maybe transferring makes sense.
Posted on 6/11/25 at 11:38 am to IM_4_LSU
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That’s the same lesson we are teaching our children, with the hope that when they face adversity in college or their careers, they won’t simply walk away when things don’t go their way.
When coaches decide to leave a program or seem disengaged, do you think they should stay, accept a lowered salary, and face the challenges head-on, believing it will ultimately build their character? It's interesting how people often hold young men and women to a higher standard than they do coaches and politicians.
Posted on 6/11/25 at 12:22 pm to lsufball19
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The OP provides all the context you need but you chose to ignore it or didn’t care to comprehend what you read
JJ was asked about transfers leaving and what may have been some of the reasons. He was asked specifically about “if a kid enters the portal and takes a look around, he can come back to your team… right”
JJ responded with “That’s a very unique circumstance, so my line with that is we’re not going to negotiate with terrorists, so to speak. There has been one exception to that in my time here and the player ended up moving along anyways. It’s one of those things. You cannot play for me and not be all bought into what’s happening here. And if you’re doing that its like you have one foot out….. It’s like the Navy Seals. If somebody thinks about quitting the Navy Seals, they’re eventually going to quit. That’s just kind of how I look at it”
Edited to throw in this nugget at the end of his press conference. Talking about one and done type player. “That’s just how it goes. The team we’re playing has like 7 or 8 transfers in the lineup. Big fast people beat little fast people. Old and strong is better than young and weak”
There's the OP with no link to an interview. Show me where he talks about about dudes entering the portal to try to leverage their current team for money or assurances. He simply posts about kids "taking a look around". Are they doing more than that? I'm sure. But the OP quotes JJ talking about buying in or quitting. He doesn't even remotely refer to being leveraged over money.
This post was edited on 6/11/25 at 12:23 pm
Posted on 6/11/25 at 1:15 pm to IM_4_LSU
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But let's be honest: the vast majority are chasing instant gratification. My original comment was in response to Jay's point about 'buying in,' and if you can't recognize the growing issue of entitlement among players today, then there's really nothing I can say to change your mind.
Is there an issue with entitlement and instant gratification for some kids, yes of course. That is mainly in football and basketball where kids who haven't set foot on campus are getting tons of money and they will jump when they don't play as a freshman. But that isn't the case nearly as much in baseball.
Trying to set your self up to be in the best position to be successful is not seeking instant gratification or entitlement.
Posted on 6/11/25 at 1:23 pm to ProjectP2294
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I don't know what it is about this thread but something is just making me think "frick Brady Neal"
This was the first guy that came to mind.
Posted on 6/11/25 at 1:30 pm to LSU82BILL
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That’s a very unique circumstance, so my line with that is we’re not going to negotiate with terrorists, so to speak
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Show me where he talks about about dudes entering the portal to try to leverage their current team for money or assurances.
What do you think Jay is referring to? Other than money or playing time, what would a player "negotiate" (as Jay put it)?
And, the question was about his players entering the transfer portal, and he gave an example with out naming the player.
Posted on 6/11/25 at 8:53 pm to deathvalleytiger10
I think CJJ left a few details out…I listened to the interview. You can’t tell all freshman to wait their turn when you are constantly going on the open market and grabbing what you want. For instance, Mikey Ryan was discussed all season as the MIF of the future but with no experience CJJ went to the portal and got what? Experience! This was a local Louisiana kid. Got less than maybe 20 ABs entire year. Buts he’s the future? When—-his senior year? You can’t string these kids along. Clearly they are talented or they wouldn’t be here.
Posted on 6/11/25 at 9:01 pm to IM_4_LSU
Much of your sentiment is accurate however I would not apply this too liberally to portal guys. When these kids see no path to the field with CJJ having an open checkbook to buy literally whatever he wants to put on the field…even when you have waited your turn. I think I find example of this is Mic Paul…CJJ has burned three years of his eligibility cheering from the sidelines…Mic seems to be a great teammate and held out hope that he would get his chance…he didn’t. If kids don’t fit the “Mic” mold and have higher aspirations I just can’t blame them. Trying not to place blame on kids who just want to play.
Posted on 6/12/25 at 1:43 am to johno71
I can assure folks that CJJ does NOT have an "open checkbook" to buy anyone he wants. I am pretty sure no college baseball HC has that. Generally does not happen in sports that hemorrhage millions of dollars like LSU Baseball. (Shortfall is going to around $3 million for this year.)
Posted on 6/12/25 at 7:12 am to TigersJump
I’m sure this only applies to certain players, lol.
Posted on 6/12/25 at 7:47 am to GeorgeWest
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Generally does not happen in sports that hemorrhage millions of dollars like LSU Baseball. (Shortfall is going to around $3 million for this year.)
That shortfall doesn’t include any revenue for media/TV rights. Nobody outside of the AD actually knows whether LSU baseball makes or loses money because they don’t report media revenue by sport.
Posted on 6/12/25 at 8:31 am to TigersJump
Which means some years may not be as productive as the expectations but that doesn’t mean Jay or the other coaches can’t get the job done.
Posted on 6/12/25 at 8:40 am to GeorgeWest
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I can assure folks that CJJ does NOT have an "open checkbook" to buy anyone he wants. I am pretty sure no college baseball HC has that.
It's all relative. Of course no baseball coach has an "open checkbook" to go pay a kid $5 million to skip the draft. But there is definitely a tier of teams that have a relative "open checkbook" compared to the rest of college baseball.
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Generally does not happen in sports that hemorrhage millions of dollars like LSU Baseball. (Shortfall is going to around $3 million for this year.)
This generally depends on what boosters are wiling to spend on the baseball team. LSU is near the very top of the list in that category.
Posted on 6/12/25 at 8:40 am to nicholastiger
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Travel ball culture for sure
while I agree with Jay....i also cant agree with this. The kids are doing what they feel is right for their situation.
now do I agree with it all the time...nope but I also dont think you should stay and sit the bench for 4 years either when you could go somewhere else and actually start.
you need to look at it as a job. if another place came and offered you a better deal...you would atleast think about taking it. Its no different and we need to stop acting like it is and getting all up in our feelings everytime someone leaves.
we love when people transfer here but get all emotional when someone leaves and get mad. its dumb and hypocritical.
Posted on 6/12/25 at 9:56 am to LSBoosie
And trust me, boosters are willing to do a lot to WIN. It is no secret in the bayou that there are several six figure players on the baseball team - including transfers. And where I'm from, if I pay you $ix figure$ your going to play EVERY DAY! I am going to get my monies worth! and CJJ has to make sure they play no matter how bad it looks in the box, i.e. Brazzwell...
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