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re: Can you really call any of these guys “NFL players”?

Posted on 8/26/26 at 7:08 am to
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 8/26/26 at 7:08 am to
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These were nfl camp bodies who were told their eligibility was up and this was the only next step in the game. If they had known they had a year left many or all would have taken it.


As someone who generally hates the NIL shite, I actually think this is a good thing and probably should have always been allowed.
Posted by MrVoodoo
Mississippi
Member since Nov 2015
326 posts
Posted on 8/26/26 at 7:10 am to
The biggest catch here is that they’re absolutely ignoring Ethan Johnson and Cole Hutson who both declared for the draft and did not withdraw from the draft… since both “signed” with their schools before the rule.

Mark Mitchell at Kentucky in basketball and of course Alabama’s Charles Bediaka too.

Only players this rule seems to impact are the players who decided they wanted to go to LSU.
Posted by USAFTiger42
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2016
3924 posts
Posted on 8/26/26 at 7:17 am to
Until there's a concrete rule to prevent a player like Chambliss then that 5 for 5 rule is just a fart in the wind
Posted by cbree88
South Louisiana
Member since Feb 2010
10881 posts
Posted on 8/26/26 at 7:21 am to
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Well Jack Pyburn is on the Bucs right now. He has played in two games.


No he hasn’t. He’s played in two preseason tryout exhibitions against scrubs from other teams, and he doesn’t know yet if he’s even going to make the team.
Posted by bstew3006
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Member since Dec 2007
13061 posts
Posted on 8/26/26 at 7:24 am to
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don't know... If you go on a set of interviews with a company, you wouldn't say you're employed by them yet.


These guys already passed the interview. They signed NFL contracts, reported to work, participated in training camp, received NFL compensation, and some even played in preseason games. Getting cut before the regular season doesn’t mean you were never employed, it means you were employed and then terminated.
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
19834 posts
Posted on 8/26/26 at 7:31 am to
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No he hasn’t. He’s played in two preseason tryout exhibitions against scrubs from other teams, and he doesn’t know yet if he’s even going to make the team.

He is currently on the Bucs and has played in two games. Those are facts.
Posted by mcspufftiger7
Member since Oct 2020
3531 posts
Posted on 8/26/26 at 7:36 am to
The problem with this whole issue is calling a player who tried out for NFL team and got cut a professional but a player in college getting $5 mil to play a student athlete. This is all much ado about nothing. It’s fixed after this year so they should have just grandfathered them in and moved forward.
Posted by UncleDuck
Member since Feb 2024
95 posts
Posted on 8/26/26 at 7:38 am to
Exactly. UDFA go to training camp and are paid a weekly stipend by the NFL team. Whether they get cut or not is besides the point. They were paid by an NFL team to play football. College football should be for college students. 4 years imo. If you can't get it done by then at some point you have to hang up the cleats and get a real job.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
58301 posts
Posted on 8/26/26 at 7:57 am to
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Settlement Alliance


You seem to have a good handle on this issue. It appears that all players affected by the conference ruling can file a discrimination suit against the conferences. They are specifically being targeted by the major conferences to not be afforded eligibility when a court ruled they are eligible.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
58301 posts
Posted on 8/26/26 at 7:58 am to
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These guys already passed the interview. They signed NFL contracts, reported to work, participated in training camp, received NFL compensation, and some even played in preseason games. Getting cut before the regular season doesn’t mean you were never employed, it means you were employed and then terminated.


But how do you allow this exact scenario in softball and gymnastics but then say you can't do that in football?
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
58301 posts
Posted on 8/26/26 at 7:59 am to
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College football should be for college students.




Many of these football players are college "students" in name only.
Posted by Alltheway Tigers!
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2004
8090 posts
Posted on 8/26/26 at 8:07 am to
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Yes, they're NFL players and no they shouldn't play for LSU


What is the difference between a college player and a pro player? Used to be one was getting paid and the other was not. Not any more.
Posted by skullhawk
My house
Member since Nov 2007
27999 posts
Posted on 8/26/26 at 8:10 am to
It's like someone calling themselves a doctor who flunked out of medical school.
Posted by bstew3006
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Member since Dec 2007
13061 posts
Posted on 8/26/26 at 8:10 am to
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But how do you allow this exact scenario in softball and gymnastics but then say you can't do that in football?


Fair point, and that’s exactly why this will probably be argued in court. There may be a legitimate argument about why professional participation is treated differently across sports. But there’s no denying these guys were professionals. They signed NFL contracts, got paid, participated in camp, and some played in preseason games.

And at the end of the day, everyone was perfectly happy with LSU’s roster before any of these guys potentially became available two weeks before the season. Acting outraged now because the SEC ruled them ineligible is ridiculous. LSU wasn’t counting on these guys all offseason. It was a last minute opportunity that didn’t work out. Move on.
Posted by geauxrugby
Tulsa, OK
Member since Jul 2012
222 posts
Posted on 8/26/26 at 8:22 am to
It seems to me this is the unique year. In the future if the Big10, SEC, NCAA want to deny eligibility based on a player’s decision to go pro, the rule would be applied…because everyone knows the rule going forward.
But, I think they have a great case in the courts because a judge is going to side with these players because the late stance by the BIG10, SEC, NCAA is denying them the right to another paid year in college…probably way more money than they could make doing anything else.
Posted by cbree88
South Louisiana
Member since Feb 2010
10881 posts
Posted on 8/26/26 at 10:15 am to
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He is currently on the Bucs and has played in two games. Those are facts.


No they aren’t facts. They have yet to play in an actual NFL game. They did NOT make an NFL roster. It’s not black and white like you’re pretending it is.

They only played in preseason contests that don’t count towards anything. Those are merely exhibitions against other scrubs who are struggling to make an NFL roster.


The NFL season begins on September 9. That’s the date that Game 1 happens.
This post was edited on 8/26/26 at 10:17 am
Posted by redbean5
Member since Jan 2008
2378 posts
Posted on 8/26/26 at 10:48 am to
I would be willing to bet most wrote a thank you to each university for the opportunity to play but have decided to forgo their remaining eligibility and declare for the draft.
Prior to all this drama/NIL era, how many underclassmen declared for the draft seeking greener pastures to not make a roster. No one felt bad for them not making a roster they took a risk that did not pan out. They were not allowed to come back.
Time to quit bitching about these young men who have been compensated very well over the last several years.
Posted by cbree88
South Louisiana
Member since Feb 2010
10881 posts
Posted on 8/26/26 at 11:51 am to
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Let me ask you this, do you think that every year players should be able to enter the draft, then go through the preseason, then return to college if they feel like it?


No, but this year with the Class of 2022 is a very specific situation where those players were screwed over by the NCAA. They declared for the draft thinking that was their only option. In actuality, they were going to have an extra year of eligibility. These guys didn’t know that because the NCAA misled them.

You’re being willfully ignorant if you refuse to admit that this is a special one-time scenario for the Class of 2022 with a lot of nuance and unusual details to it.
This post was edited on 8/26/26 at 11:55 am
Posted by Kool Kaliper
Mansfield, TX
Member since Nov 2018
3963 posts
Posted on 8/26/26 at 11:58 am to
Stop your bloodclaat crying...
Posted by cbree88
South Louisiana
Member since Feb 2010
10881 posts
Posted on 8/26/26 at 12:01 pm to
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Stop your bloodclaat crying...


Stop your complaining and knuckle dragging.
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