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Can you really call any of these guys “NFL players”?
Posted on 8/25/26 at 10:43 pm
Posted on 8/25/26 at 10:43 pm
To me, going to training camp with a NFL team for a few weeks and then getting cut before the season even starts doesn’t exactly constitute being an “NFL player”. That’s a dramatic exaggeration. These guys never took a single snap during an actual NFL game.
Wright and Harris should be eligible.
Wright and Harris should be eligible.
This post was edited on 8/25/26 at 10:49 pm
Posted on 8/25/26 at 10:55 pm to cbree88
That’s the issue.
This isn’t burrow or Jaylen hurts coming back for a year
These were nfl camp bodies who were told their eligibility was up and this was the only next step in the game. If they had known they had a year left many or all would have taken it.
This isn’t burrow or Jaylen hurts coming back for a year
These were nfl camp bodies who were told their eligibility was up and this was the only next step in the game. If they had known they had a year left many or all would have taken it.
Posted on 8/25/26 at 11:29 pm to cbree88
This is built into the issue as a whole.
But the issue is one of eligibility. This is about a plaintiff taking an action based on an error that was unknown to them at the time.
It is very easy for everyone's issue to become the "professional" aspect of this.
It is very impressive how the high and mighty of the Big 10 threw such a tantrum... defending the governing body that has completely lost its touch over the last decade.
Them being considered “professionals” could itself be lumped into the broader antitrust issue.
If anyone understands the antitrust implications of this—and the NCAA’s failure to clearly establish the meaning of amateurism and what constitutes fair compensation—they should also understand that this situation exists because of almost a decade of neglect.
For the NCAA, or any athletic conference operating under its structure, to then deny Dae’Quan Wright and Zxavian Harris the opportunity to receive fair compensation for an afforded fifth year of eligibility simply because of their professional status after the fact is wrong.
Unfortunately, the issue of eligibility has taken a subjective turn, while the larger issues of antitrust and fair compensation will continue to erode the NCAA’s authority.
Yes, 5-for-5 is new. But 5-for-5 is not the NCAA’s biggest problem. The NCAA will continue to rot from within as long as it fails to address the antitrust issues at the foundation of its model.
But the issue is one of eligibility. This is about a plaintiff taking an action based on an error that was unknown to them at the time.
It is very easy for everyone's issue to become the "professional" aspect of this.
It is very impressive how the high and mighty of the Big 10 threw such a tantrum... defending the governing body that has completely lost its touch over the last decade.
Them being considered “professionals” could itself be lumped into the broader antitrust issue.
If anyone understands the antitrust implications of this—and the NCAA’s failure to clearly establish the meaning of amateurism and what constitutes fair compensation—they should also understand that this situation exists because of almost a decade of neglect.
For the NCAA, or any athletic conference operating under its structure, to then deny Dae’Quan Wright and Zxavian Harris the opportunity to receive fair compensation for an afforded fifth year of eligibility simply because of their professional status after the fact is wrong.
Unfortunately, the issue of eligibility has taken a subjective turn, while the larger issues of antitrust and fair compensation will continue to erode the NCAA’s authority.
Yes, 5-for-5 is new. But 5-for-5 is not the NCAA’s biggest problem. The NCAA will continue to rot from within as long as it fails to address the antitrust issues at the foundation of its model.
Posted on 8/25/26 at 11:41 pm to cbree88
Yes, they're NFL players and no they shouldn't play for LSU
Posted on 8/26/26 at 2:29 am to Carter
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Yes, they're NFL players and no they shouldn't play for LSU
You make such a convincing argument……..jackass
Posted on 8/26/26 at 3:47 am to cbree88
Not only that, but the bigger issue to me is that had they had the opportunity, I'm guessing very few players, if any at all, would've "went pro". Their hand got forced because they had no other options available to them.
This whole thing was fricked by the NCAA. If you support what they did, or what the conferences are trying to do, you're a Nazi POS. Sorry, thems the rules. I don't make them.
This whole thing was fricked by the NCAA. If you support what they did, or what the conferences are trying to do, you're a Nazi POS. Sorry, thems the rules. I don't make them.
Posted on 8/26/26 at 4:25 am to Carter
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Yes, they're NFL players
Oh? What teams are they on? What games have they played in?
Posted on 8/26/26 at 4:33 am to cbree88
Are you really gay if you just lust and fantasize over gay men
This post was edited on 8/26/26 at 7:21 am
Posted on 8/26/26 at 5:13 am to Carter
I don't know... If you go on a set of interviews with a company, you wouldn't say you're employed by them yet.
In the past, I was completely on board with not allowing guys to return after declaring for the NFL draft. However, the NCAA really screwed these guys over by waiting to make the 5-for-5 rule public/official. That timing is the crux of the matter to me.
In the past, I was completely on board with not allowing guys to return after declaring for the NFL draft. However, the NCAA really screwed these guys over by waiting to make the 5-for-5 rule public/official. That timing is the crux of the matter to me.
Posted on 8/26/26 at 5:31 am to cbree88
It’s crazy how much emotion is being invested in two guys who went undrafted and did not make an NFL roster. And I’m talking about on both sides.
Posted on 8/26/26 at 6:23 am to cbree88
Okay, they are not NFL players. But they are no longer college players either.
Posted on 8/26/26 at 6:28 am to cbree88
It's not just a 5th yr eligibility issue. The issue is going pro and trying to make a pro-team used to mean you were done in college. That was no big deal when college players weren't paid. Now that college players are paid, the players are treating this which way do they go that makes financial sense.
So you could see guys come out of college their junior year, test the waters and enter the draft. If they are a late draft pick or UDFA and then in pre-season NFL get cut, they will just go back to college because they have eligibility left.
This would be another avenue that creates more roster turnover and flux than the portal window.
I'm for keeping a hardline between the pros and college. Once you decide to go pro thats it. Your college career is over. But paying college players now blurs that line and invites the lawsuits. College is essentially a pro sport now.
So you could see guys come out of college their junior year, test the waters and enter the draft. If they are a late draft pick or UDFA and then in pre-season NFL get cut, they will just go back to college because they have eligibility left.
This would be another avenue that creates more roster turnover and flux than the portal window.
I'm for keeping a hardline between the pros and college. Once you decide to go pro thats it. Your college career is over. But paying college players now blurs that line and invites the lawsuits. College is essentially a pro sport now.
Posted on 8/26/26 at 6:31 am to cbree88
Conversely- can you call college players student athletes anymore.
Posted on 8/26/26 at 6:39 am to cbree88
It's incredibly hypocritical to call these guys "pro players" who never even had the choice to come back until a few weeks ago and then just give a huge pass on 22, 23 and 24 year old euro pro players playing college basketball
This post was edited on 8/26/26 at 6:41 am
Posted on 8/26/26 at 6:45 am to thunderbird1100
The idea that the line between pro and amateur wasn't blurred long ago is bullshite
Posted on 8/26/26 at 6:50 am to cbree88
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Can you really call any of these guys “NFL players”?
Yes
Posted on 8/26/26 at 6:51 am to cbree88
Not unless they make a roster.
Posted on 8/26/26 at 7:01 am to saint tiger225
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Not only that, but the bigger issue to me is that had they had the opportunity, I'm guessing very few players, if any at all, would've "went pro".
This is the crux of this case. I'm fine with the rules as put forth by the SEC. But I think the football players in this particular case have a valid case. I don't think the same is true for RJ Luis.
I also think it would be good for the NCAA (and the SEC by extension) to change one thing related to the draft and eligibility. They should allow NFL/NBA/WNBA underclassmen to return to college if they enter the draft but do not sign a contract after being drafted (or not drafted), as they do in baseball. They won't because they are in collusion with those leagues.
Posted on 8/26/26 at 7:05 am to cbree88
Let me ask you this, do you think that every year players should be able to enter the draft, then go through the preseason, then return to college if they feel like it?
Posted on 8/26/26 at 7:07 am to fr33manator
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Oh? What teams are they on? What games have they played in?
Well Jack Pyburn is on the Bucs right now. He has played in two games.
This post was edited on 8/26/26 at 7:08 am
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