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re: More analayis of the trade deal most here will not want to read or hear
Posted on 1/19/20 at 10:01 pm to I B Freeman
Posted on 1/19/20 at 10:01 pm to I B Freeman
IB,I hope China can assist you in importing your way out of this devastating recession we are curently mired in.
Trumpkin
Out.
Trumpkin
Out.
Posted on 1/19/20 at 10:02 pm to I B Freeman
quote:
100% correct thus far.
You get what you give....
Posted on 1/19/20 at 10:03 pm to I B Freeman
I love how the “drain the swamp” crowd think that the gov’t can fix a gov’t created problem just because the Orange Man said he could with more gov’t. It’s comical.
Posted on 1/19/20 at 10:08 pm to ShortyRob
Posted on 1/19/20 at 10:18 pm to beerJeep
Whoever wrote that should be fired for stupidity. A basic Econ 101 student could do better
Posted on 1/19/20 at 10:22 pm to I B Freeman
quote:
Increased American sales to China would likely mean a loss of market share for competing nations. As U.S. producers step up output, excess supplies from other countries could put downward pressure on prices, which are set in global commodity markets.
One need not read anything beyond this opening statement.
So we are suppose to consider increasing sales to China as a bad thing given the impact on other nations? The US selling more goods is bad and hurts us?
Perhaps we shouldn't sell anything at all, that way we would really really be better off LMAO.
Posted on 1/19/20 at 10:25 pm to I B Freeman
In my time lurking I've paid attention to your threads. Do you wake up each morning and start the process of identifying the day's worth of criticism of Donald Trump's economic and trade policies?
Posted on 1/19/20 at 10:25 pm to I B Freeman
Barrons endorsed Hillary Clinton they hate Trump's trade platform.
Posted on 1/19/20 at 10:36 pm to I B Freeman
quote:
So, was the trade deal worth the cost in the slowing of global growth?
Thank you for emphasizing what you apparently think is the most salient point from that article, and which is also 100% wrong.
No point reading anything else.
Posted on 1/19/20 at 10:37 pm to I B Freeman
101st DV
Didn’t read
Bout lunchtime in Shanghai IP better go get that dogmeat sandwich
Didn’t read
Bout lunchtime in Shanghai IP better go get that dogmeat sandwich
Posted on 1/19/20 at 10:54 pm to I B Freeman
Nobody is going to read what you post. If you want people to read this, the last thing you should do is post it yourself, because nobody gives a shite what you say or think is important.
Posted on 1/19/20 at 11:00 pm to I B Freeman
So by this articles “logic” the trade war had no impact while it was going on. You can’t have it both ways.
Posted on 1/19/20 at 11:20 pm to I B Freeman
I’ll never understand how Rs are supportive of a gov’t tax on American consumers in an attempt to social engineer. It’s amazing. Tariffs used to only be the purview of socialists and Democrats.
Posted on 1/19/20 at 11:22 pm to I B Freeman
quote:
Increased American sales to China would likely mean a loss of market share for competing nations.
So, was the trade deal worth the cost in the slowing of global growth?
So, the author is upset because Trump doesn't want to let the US economy suffer so other countries can benefit at our expense. Why should I support his globalist vision that is detrimental to our country?
Why are you putting other countries above your own? Is it out of personal greed?
Posted on 1/19/20 at 11:31 pm to I B Freeman
Did you get this article from Reliable Sources on CNN. When will one single “prophecy” actually happens? Everything Trump does is the worst thing in the world but yet they all end up working exactly like he wanted, and some even better. Take your hope and shove it up your arse.
This post was edited on 1/19/20 at 11:32 pm
Posted on 1/20/20 at 12:03 am to I B Freeman
IB copy pasta = auto anchor
Posted on 1/20/20 at 12:20 am to I B Freeman
I smashed down vote 140.....do I get a prize?
Posted on 1/20/20 at 6:22 am to I B Freeman
quote:Not unless that hand had either a thousand fingers, or a tally clicker.
Independent thought is not respected here at all. I can count on one hand
Regardless of your "count on one hand" misnomer, let's test your "independent thought" claim.
Here are excerpts from your own OP, followed by a simple "Good or Bad?" question posed to you. Answer them "independently".
quote:Good or Bad?
The Great Grain Robbery of 1972 by the Soviet Union proved an embarrassment to Washington, as it was pulled off in secrecy, ultimately sending wheat prices soaring in what was an early episode of the Great Inflation of that decade.
In contrast, the phase-one trade pact between the U.S. and China was signed with great fanfare in Washington this past week, about three months after the deal was struck in principle. And while the promise of $200 billion in purchases by China is a political plus for President Donald Trump’s reelection bid, it’s unlikely to trigger a ’70s-style commodities boom.
quote:Good or Bad?
“The return of China as a key buyer is potentially a windfall for U.S. farmers and energy producers,” writes Caroline Bain, chief commodities economist at Capital Economics.
quote:Good or Bad?
she points out, it would be tough for the U.S. to meet all of China’s import needs, although other commodities, notably pork, lumber, and cotton, could fill part of the bill.
quote:Good or Bad?
Increased American sales to China would likely mean a loss of market share for competing nations.
quote:Good or Bad?
the easing of trade policy uncertainty should help increase investment
Your OP commentary implies the Barron Article made an argument.
Aside from an overpromising title, it didn't. It simply laid out a series of points and counter-points regarding the partial, Phase One trade deal.
E.g.,
quote:Even so, the analysis did significantly downplay Phase One gains in intellectual rights and financial sectors. It inexplicably quoted TDS afflicted individuals' claims that agreements on IP or finance were previously attained. Phase One makes formal strides in that regard. In a "trust but verify" sense, it gives us time to assess Chinese compliance prior to a Phase Two agreement.
Tariffs forced China to the negotiating table, talks dragged on deliberately to allow China’s leader to announce reforms ahead of the agreement, to appear in control rather than making concessions to the U.S., and Trump’s ability to win purchases and concessions without having to reduce most of the tariffs is evidence that he negotiated a good deal.
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Lastly, you referenced "supporters of the trade war."
It is an odd invective.
Is it a self-reference?
The US stood as a target in China's trade war for 20 years. You support status quo in that regard. Therein lies the rub. You are not just a supporter of the trade war, but a supporter of our adversary in it.
Posted on 1/20/20 at 7:00 am to Aubie Spr96
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I’ll never understand how Rs are supportive of a gov’t tax on American consumers in an attempt to social engineer. It’s amazing. Tariffs used to only be the purview of socialists and Democrats.
Except none of that is true. There was no increase in the price of goods due to tariffs (i.e. no "tax" on American consumers) and there is no social engineering... merely the necessity of confronting an economic adversary who has been waging a war on us for 20 years. When your country is attacked, you have to fight.
Nice try, though.
This post was edited on 1/20/20 at 7:01 am
Posted on 1/20/20 at 7:09 am to BayBengal9
quote:Exactly.
There was no increase in the price of goods due to tariffs
It's a shame this is anchored.
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