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More analayis of the trade deal most here will not want to read or hear

Posted on 1/19/20 at 9:20 pm
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 1/19/20 at 9:20 pm
From Barrons today:

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Increased American sales to China would likely mean a loss of market share for competing nations. As U.S. producers step up output, excess supplies from other countries could put downward pressure on prices, which are set in global commodity markets.

Neither is the trade deal likely to affect the overall U.S. trade balance or gross domestic product significantly, contrary to administration claims. A quick primer on national income accounting from J.P. Morgan’s chief U.S. economist, Michael Feroli, demonstrates as much.

Skipping over the algebra, the current-account deficit (basically the trade deficit) is equal to the difference between savings minus investment, with the shortfall being funded by a surplus in the capital account. So, to reduce the current account means increasing savings, relative to investment. But “many hope the easing of trade policy uncertainty should help increase investment, leaning against the argument the current-account deficit will narrow as a result of this deal,” Feroli writes.


To keep the U.S. current account unchanged amid a boost in exports would require an increase in the dollar’s real exchange rate. While U.S. producers selling to China would benefit, those that supply non-Chinese markets would lose out, he adds.


Coincident with the phase-one pact, Washington dropped its designation of China as a currency manipulator. “The U.S. Treasury made a purely political point in 2019 of accusing the Chinese of currency manipulation, and the agreement corrects nothing that was out of order before,” veteran economist George Magnus points out. “The yuan does not float freely, and maybe never will, but it is neither over- nor undervalued by a significant margin.”

The latest Treasury International Capital data released late Thursday contradicts the assertion that Beijing has been deliberately driving down the yuan, which it would do by buying dollar assets. Rather, China sold more than $120 billion of U.S. Treasury securities in the first 11 months of 2019, which would tend to prop up its currency. Those sales put China on pace for the second-largest annual sales of Treasuries since 2016, when it sold $155 billion, and when Barron’s explained why Trump was wrong about Chinese currency manipulation.

So, was the trade deal worth the cost in the slowing of global growth?
“Like most things, the answer is likely heavily influenced by political ideology,” contends Stephen Pavlick, a Washington policy analyst at Renaissance Macro Research.


Link to the entire article

I say posting this will result in zero intelligent counter arguments to the author of the article and at least 100 down votes.
This post was edited on 1/19/20 at 9:22 pm
Posted by Smeg
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Posted on 1/19/20 at 9:20 pm to
1st down vote/ didn't read
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 1/19/20 at 9:20 pm to
I b chinaman I play joke I put peepee in your coke
Posted by geauxtigers87
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Posted on 1/19/20 at 9:21 pm to
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 1/19/20 at 9:22 pm to
Chinese bot

Chinese shill

Chinese agent gonna die on this hill!
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 1/19/20 at 9:24 pm to
"Well...thats just, like, their opinion, man"
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 1/19/20 at 9:24 pm to
quote:

Chinese bot

Chinese shill

Chinese agent gonna die on this hill!



You realize that all of you that respond in such fashion without reading are the real robots?

Have some self awareness you morons
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 1/19/20 at 9:25 pm to
One
Trick
Pony
Posted by simonizer
no
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 1/19/20 at 9:25 pm to
i hope you get 1000 downvotes
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 1/19/20 at 9:27 pm to
quote:

kipping over the algebra, the current-account deficit (basically the trade deficit) is equal to the difference between savings minus investment, with the shortfall being funded by a surplus in the capital account. So, to reduce the current account means increasing savings, relative to investment. But “many hope the easing of trade policy uncertainty should help increase investment, leaning against the argument the current-account deficit will narrow as a result of this deal,” Feroli writes.


Ok ok...why is this bad?
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
141386 posts
Posted on 1/19/20 at 9:29 pm to
quote:

You realize that all of you that respond in such fashion without reading are the real robots?

Have some self awareness you morons
tl;dr
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 1/19/20 at 9:30 pm to
quote:

More analayis of the trade deal most here will not want to read or hear

Full disclosure.

Now that I know you are 100% incapable of actual analysis and are basically a regurgitator, I don't think I've actually read one of your posts past like the first 3 lines in months.

I suspect I'm not alone.

So, save your effort.
Posted by Tiger985
Member since Nov 2006
6459 posts
Posted on 1/19/20 at 9:30 pm to
The article is full of "coulds" and "mights".

A worthless opinion by people who have been wrong more than they have been right.

Trust Trump, he's a winner.

Downvoted!
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 1/19/20 at 9:31 pm to
quote:

You realize that all of you that respond in such fashion without reading are the real robots?


Meh

One can earn a certain type of response over time.

Call it like the boy you cried wolf.

He's at the point now where he could post the cure for cancer and no one would care.
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
34911 posts
Posted on 1/19/20 at 9:31 pm to
quote:

You realize that all of you that respond in such fashion without reading are the real robots?

Have some self awareness you morons


What’s wrong power man? Can’t pick up on sarcasm?
Posted by Buckeye Backer
Columbus, Ohio
Member since Aug 2009
9233 posts
Posted on 1/19/20 at 9:31 pm to
If you come out against the new trade deals, then you are/were for the status quo which has been disasterous for America...end of debate.

Posted by artisticsavant
Member since Mar 2017
5007 posts
Posted on 1/19/20 at 9:36 pm to
Instead of attacking any potential readers of the article or this thread, why not offer some sign of intelligence yourself instead of posting an article with no actual thought of your own?
Posted by ELVIS U
Member since Feb 2007
9918 posts
Posted on 1/19/20 at 9:39 pm to
Trade deal doesn't matter. The Chinese will cheat and not follow it anyway. It appears to be a win right now so it is a win.
Posted by Jorts R Us
Member since Aug 2013
14786 posts
Posted on 1/19/20 at 9:41 pm to
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I say posting this will result in zero intelligent counter arguments to the author of the article and at least 100 down votes.


100? Why so conservative?
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 1/19/20 at 9:43 pm to
quote:

I say posting this will result in zero intelligent counter arguments to the author of the article and at least 100 down votes.



100% correct thus far.
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