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Chinese put tariffs on LNG

Posted on 8/6/18 at 4:26 am
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 8/6/18 at 4:26 am
We will see how this trade war plays out as it hits the US oil field.

LNG exports are booming and are set to really boom cutting drastically this trade deficit folks here on TD think is all important. This is a huge wet blanket on that. It is basically giving other natural gas producers the margin in China to invest in LNG technology to compete with us.

Guess that will have to wait.

Maybe they sell delux truck nuts in Russia and some of you oil field BAWS can get some there over the next few years as the Chinese cut deals with them to get them in the LNG business.

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This post was edited on 8/6/18 at 4:29 am
Posted by Boatshoes
Member since Dec 2017
6775 posts
Posted on 8/6/18 at 4:28 am to
n=1.

The trade deficit is a clear indicator that the value of goods China sends us far exceeds the value of goods we send them.

The fruit of free trade with enemy and third world nations:

Chinese Military Recruiting Video

The Truth About Free Trade
This post was edited on 8/6/18 at 4:36 am
Posted by Northwestern tiger
Long Island NY
Member since Oct 2005
23485 posts
Posted on 8/6/18 at 4:30 am to
in the meant time, China stock market down another 1.5 points today.
Posted by BOSCEAUX
Where the Down Boys go.
Member since Mar 2008
47763 posts
Posted on 8/6/18 at 5:32 am to
You’re becoming a one trick pony like Toddy. First it was muh film credits now it’s muh tarrifs.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124188 posts
Posted on 8/6/18 at 6:40 am to
quote:

We will see how this trade war plays out
We will indeed!
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
13525 posts
Posted on 8/6/18 at 6:41 am to
LNG is sold on contracts a year in advance at least, they may promise tariffs on future purchases a year down the road, I doubt they will put tariffs on gas already purchased.

See above, we dont have any extra LNG to sell them, the talks were about future plants we are now building. It will be a few years before we could export an additional 500 billion.

The LNG market is growing worldwide so China is by no means the only potential customer so no worries.

And yes the Chinese market dropped another 1.3% overnight. Since this has started their market has dropped the equivalent of the dow dropping 6,000 points. The renminbi will continue to slip and they will be forced to intervene at some point, last time it cost them over a trillion and it was just a bandaid. And the stronger the dollar gets the more its gonna squeeze them. They got addicted to that quantitative easing and zero interest rates of the previous adm like crack cocaine laced with their own fentanyl.

Capital investment in the US is up SIGNIFICANTLY, its at a 13 year load in chini, always follow the money fellas, it will lead you to the winners.

I truly dont understand some people like you IB, you would rather see the US economy tank, than Trump to succeed, its like Huckabee Sanders said, some of you hate Trump more than you care about your own country. A shame, a real shame.
Posted by Kat Kat
Member since Aug 2017
189 posts
Posted on 8/6/18 at 6:45 am to
Wet blanket? LOL. Get your facts straight. This is largely a symbolic move by the Chinese. For the 11st 7 months of this year only 6.9% of China LNG imports are from the US. China imports of LNG are on par with South Korea. Japan imports almost 3 times as much LNG as China. US better off selling all our LNG to Europe anyway. This is not going to hurt the US oil patch.
Posted by Mr.Perfect
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2013
17438 posts
Posted on 8/6/18 at 7:09 am to
IB

I pray you don’t work in any business related field
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261672 posts
Posted on 8/6/18 at 7:11 am to
These tariffs are going to frick up our gas line deal with China.
Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
51811 posts
Posted on 8/6/18 at 7:13 am to
They're cutting their nose off to spite their face.


Xi is losing this negotiation badly and he's too stubborn to realize it.
Posted by Gaspergou202
Metairie, LA
Member since Jun 2016
13501 posts
Posted on 8/6/18 at 7:14 am to
Member the EU Tariff war?

Member when they agreed to buy American soybeans, LNG, and to coordinate with us against cheaters like China?

Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
51812 posts
Posted on 8/6/18 at 7:24 am to
quote:

We will see how this trade war plays out


It's working out pretty well with the EU. China is a bit more stubborn but they are also extremely dependent on US trade to keep their economy moving (far moreso than the reverse). They're also used to playing a far longer game than the US, it wouldn't shock me to see them waiting until the mid-terms to see if (from their view) enough Congressional seats switch parties to reign in Trump's hardline trade stance.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
119029 posts
Posted on 8/6/18 at 7:38 am to
If the natural gas cannot find a market producers will just flare is off like they have always done.
Posted by tigersnipen
Member since Dec 2006
2085 posts
Posted on 8/6/18 at 7:50 am to
I'll bite, how do you get fair trade to happen with out tarrifs? Do you think we should continue to get screwed with these trade deals indefinitely? What is the alternative solution since asking nicely didn't work.
Posted by Jack Bauers HnK
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
5728 posts
Posted on 8/6/18 at 8:09 am to
So Chinese tariffs will be helpful to China, gotcha.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
99163 posts
Posted on 8/6/18 at 8:09 am to
Who knew China had a burgeoning LNG industry?

If they don't, this is possibly the dumbest thing a country could do.
Posted by 50_Tiger
Dallas TX
Member since Jan 2016
40223 posts
Posted on 8/6/18 at 8:18 am to
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
119029 posts
Posted on 8/6/18 at 8:23 am to
quote:

Chinese put tariffs on LNG


This should decrease natural gas prices for U.S. consumers.

Good news.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52916 posts
Posted on 8/6/18 at 8:57 am to
quote:

I B Freeman


You know, being wrong about a situation, isn't the end of the world. And actually, fessing up to when you are incorrect, is noble.

However, doubling down on stupid day after day, because you are so angry over being proved wrong minutes after your posts, is just insanity.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
90879 posts
Posted on 8/6/18 at 9:41 am to
This move makes no sense because China can't produce it domestically. They'll just pay more for it now. It will hurt them more than us especially since the EU will start importing LNG from us
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